From: Annie (annie@geekbabe.com)
Date: Wed Mar 10 2004 - 07:59:44 CST
In this mailing:
Org List
Looks like we're right on track
Loose ends and dirty laundry
Posting our links
Limo and other comments
Schedule and activity comments
Big Sister report
Limo details
Summary schedule of activities
Administrivia
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Replies to this message will be forwarded to the DLVORG list and not
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Ongoing activity database of proposed and scheduled activities on line:
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Looks like we're right on track:
Yes, another very long mailing. Lots of things happening, but pieces are
falling into place nicely.
Big news this week is that the lost has been found. :)
Leah has been located, and will be back on line shortly. Plans for
Carluccio's are "go" as originally planned.
Thanks to our resident bounty hunter Tootsye for tracking down and
apprehending Leah. :)
Special thanks are in order to Billie Lee, Deb, Ginger, Jena, and
Tootsye, as they have taken on new responsibilities in making sure
that our activities and functions happen as planned.
Billie Lee will be assisting Mindy with the Golf Tournament.
Deb and Ginger will be coordinating the Wednesday evening dinner at
the Hard Rock Cafe.
Jena and Tootsye will be heading up the registration check-in, perhaps
assisted by others if needed.
And, big thanks to Aiko for handling a number of administrivial
items over the past couple weeks. :)
Please join me in thanking them for their efforts. (Hint: buy them a
drink!) :)
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One other possible snag has recently developed. Tushell (Bad Attitude
Boutique) has informed me that their planned dinner-show for Saturday
the 8th. has been cancelled. Although this was not on our schedule, we
had discussed it as a possibility.
That means we have nothing scheduled after Cagle, with Cagle still being
unconfirmed. RHPS is still highly tentative.
Do we want to schedule some kind of a Farewell Get-together?
Dinner for Saturday?
Comments? Let's hear some chatter from the infield, gang! :)
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Latest numbers:
Registration continues to be heavy. If this rate keeps up we can expect
turnout to be on the high end of the estimates.
Return registrations: 56
Return SO: 13
Return total signup: 69
Return projection: 62
Newcomer registrations: 40
Newcomer SO: 5
Newcomer total signup: 45
Newcomer projection: 18
Total registrations: 96
Total SO: 18
Total signup: 114
Total projection: 80
Validations outstanding: 1
Cancelled registrations: 1
Mailing list sits at 471, with each addition resulting in an all-time
high. This most likely will exceed 500 by DLV.
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As many of you know, Monique will not be with us this year. Most of her
bases are already covered by our volunteers, but the one that is not is
the Garden Party. Although I think we can get Mindy a lot of help,
should she need it, in real-time at DLV, we should have at least one in
advance to go on record. Volunteers?
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Loose ends and dirty laundry:
Thanks to everybody who has sent in recent updates on their activities.
Most things are falling into place very nicely.
On a few activities, we need some information or details, or in some
cases just a "go" or "no go", so if your name is mentioned, please give
us some kind of a response. Even a "I'll let you know as soon as I can"
is fine, just so we know you're still in contact and on top of it.
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Monday, May 3:
5:00pm Happy Hour (Hamburger Mary's - MV)
6:00pm Dinner (Hamburger Mary's - MV)
We need somebody, preferably local, to make contact with Troy or
somebody else in charge of HM's just to let them know we are going to be
invading that Monday. We will be able to give them a good approximate
headcount the week before DLV. I know a number of the local people on
the list here frequent HM's.
Any volunteers? This is an easy one. :)
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Tuesday, May 4:
1:30pm Bowling (Bowling alley - MS)
Michelle, bowling? Are you going to be able to take that one on. Can we
please have a "go" or "no-go" on this one. No-go is cool, but please let
us know one way or another. I need to either get this on the sign-up
form or get it off of the schedules. Thanks.
6:00pm NSD local Happy Hour (Las Vegas Lounge)
It might be a good idea to let LVL know that we will be in there that
evening, in case they want to adjust staffing levels and such. I know a
few of you are regulars or occasionals at the LVL. Can one of you please
make contact and let them know about this. Thanks.
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Wednesday, May 5:
10:30am Star Trek Experience (LV Hilton)
Michelle? Star Trek? Are you still "go" for this one?
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Friday, May 7:
2:00pm High Tea (TBD - MS)
Mindy, any info on location? Price? We need to know at least the price
and the payment method, and any deadline for such, by the end of the
month.
Mindy has also requested a standby volunteer to assist with this. High
Tea fans?
Later Dance Night (Gipsy, et. al)
Tina? Are you going to be able to do this one? Can we have a "go" or
"no go" on this, please. TIA.
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Saturday, May 8:
10:00am Claude Hall Gun Show (Cashman Field - MS)
Gina? Do you have the price for this? If not, do you have a pointer to
where I might find out?
11:00am Garden Party (Mindy's residence - SV)
We need (at least) one more volunteer to co-coordinate this with Mindy.
Ladies? (Gentlemen?)
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SO activities? So far we have 18 SO's signed up, a good mix of newcomers
and returnees, making a good-size pool of potential participants for any
SO's activities.
If there are any SO activities that need any kind of a hoop-jump or
headcount, we need to know at least where, when, and approximately how
much by the end of March. Sandi, Mindy, Diane?
Thanks, everybody. :)
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Posting our links:
+Subject: Referral report for dlv
+9 /dlv/index.html|http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tvblowjobsluts/
+7 /dlv/index.html|http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transgender_love_making/
+3 /dlv/index.html|http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TripleXtasy/
Ok, enough is enough! :(
Unless somebody here says "stop", I'm gonna post a note in the general
mailing asking for people to use some common sense and restraint when
posting our links.
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Limo and other comments:
Densie writes:
>>I've never ridden in one of those stretched SUV's or umpteen-passenger
>>vehicles, but I would think that they would be kinda like riding in a
>>cushy school bus, and I have to agree that the regular Cadillac or
>It's sad that you can't hire a 1976 or earlier limo anymore. The newer
>ones just don't have the space. However, I am also not interested in
>riding in a stretched Hum-V safari wagon. The limo tour has been
>successful in past years, and the only positive change that I could
>come up with would be riding four to a limo, so that we don't step on
>each other's feet.
Hmmm ... I admit I can't ever remember riding in a '76 or prior limo.
>For the boat cruise, I can pay now or later. It doesn't matter to me.
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>>If you're certain by April 1 that the plane will be there, we can get
>>it back on the schedule and give you a sign-up list.
>In past years, with 75% or more no-show rate, sign-up lists for air
>tours have been about as worthless as a douchebag without a hose.
>If anyone wants to go for an air tour, let me or Tony know sometime at
>DLV and we'll arrange it.
Ok, let's consider the air tour to be an informal off-the-schedule
activity. We can put it in one of the announcement mailings closer to
DLV if you know for sure.
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Schedule and activity comments:
Michelle (NZ) writes:
>Hi,
Hafa Adai :)
>For what its worth (and it probably isn't much, although my 2 cents is
>buying more US dollars these days) here is my assessment of the
>schedule:
I'm sure it's still worth every depreciated penny. :)
(somewhat edited to save real estate)
>>Sunday, May 2: Metro Comm Church service, Pre-DLV Happy Hour,
>>Pre-DLV dinner, Pre-DLV get-together
>Seems like an easy day.
Uh-huh, it does. :)
>How many are arriving for this weekend?
Well, as of this day, hour, minute, and second (actually Friday), we
have 30 who have indicated they will be arriving before the 2nd, and 20
who stated they will be arriving on the 2nd. Yes, a very good size pool
of potential participants for any activity.
>Should we consider some informal activity for the afternoon for the
>early arrivers?
Well, if somebody (like you?), plans one, I guess it will happen ... :)
>(No I'm not volunteering!)
Ok, uh, asked and answered, I guess. :) :)
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>>Monday: Trip to Rhyolite, Lunch with or without Ginger, Happy Hour,
>>Dinner, Welcome Celebration
>Only issue I have with this is the cross town trip from HM to Flex. Of
>course it may not be such a big issue.
Yes, this seems to be the longest of those blasted "moves" this year.
History has shown, however, that when we have a dinner someplace like
HM's followed by a gathering at Flex, Flex gets a much larger crowd than
the dinner does. I have a feeling that Monday at Flex will be the big
DLV grand entrance for many of our people.
I also think that most of the people going to Rhyolite will be
fashionably late to HM and some may skip it entirely. Just my hunch.
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>>Tuesday: Thrift Shop Tour, Boat cruise, Lunch with or without Ginger,
>>Bowling, NSD local Happy Hour, Night of the Soiled Doves
>Having read this months brief description on the boat trip and the
>reference to photography this sounds like a MUST DO activity. Seems
>like a reasonable price as well.
>As for the Night of the Soiled Doves it leaves me speechless. (Or
>wordless in this case!)
I have a feeling that NSD will be the killer activity of DLV 2004 and
will be a very hard act to follow, at this DLV, at DLV's to come, and
at t* events in general. :)
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>>Wednesday: Star Trek Experience, Hidden Woman Open House, Buffet
>>Lunch, Lunch with or without Ginger, Shopping expedition, Happy Hour,
>>Hard Rock Dinner, Secretaries Night, Karaoke
>Busy Day! I'm looking forward to doing the ST Experience again. It was
>kewl when I did it some years ago. The buffet at Bellagio is worth every
>dollar.
>While I didn't go to the HRC with the crew last year I went to one at a
>Southern Comfort many years ago and it was great fun. Good atmosphere.
It seems to me that Wednesday will be the least intense of the three
mid-week days. Nice easy happy hour, dinner, then Karaoke. Plenty of
that Quality Social Time<tm> that our people love. :)
I do agree that the HR Cafe will be good. We had happy hour (actually
happy half-hour) and dinner at the one in Chicago for Pinkfest last
year, mainly due to the reception we got at HRC just prior to DLV
last year.
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>>Thursday: Golf, Art tour, Lunch with or without Ginger, Glamour
>>Boutique Open House, Happy Hour, V, The Ultimate Variety Show, Big
>>Show Pity Party, Limo Tour
>Another big day and night. For those that are considering golf this is
>a good event despite being mainstream, there's really not a lot of
>exposure once we're out and about on the course. I hope the wind stays
>down this year as it played havoc with everyone last year.
>The show and Limo tour should be as good as always. For what its worth
>I think serious consideration should be given to the extended Limo's
>(HumVees?). I would have thought that this would allow a lot more
>mixing and some serious partying.
There are differing opinions on this. See notes elsewhere in this
mailing.
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>>Friday: Charles Bar get-together, Lunch with or without Ginger, Bad
>>Attitude Corset Workshop, High Tea, Happy Hour, Carluccio's Dinner,
>>Annual Mixer
>Well this day starts where the last left off. Charles Bar at Bellagio
>was kewl last year despite the various "incidents" that seemed to
>happen in the vicinity. I'm not sure I'm really looking forward to a
>repeat of having breakfast there at 6:00am again or getting to bed
>around 9:00am but who knows...
>And I really wouldn't mind getting to the High tea this year....if it
>possible to get up in time?
>It would be sad to drop Carluccio's from the schedule. This was one of
>the better meals last year in a real nice environment.
Well, it looks like that one will be happening as planned. :)
>Goodtimes is what is. I would only comment that we should try and add a
>specific time to do the group picture so that at least everyone who
>wants to be in can be there for it.
Hmmmm ... I thought we did set a time for the group photo, both last
year and the year before.
Maybe we don't have a problem setting the time, but a problem keeping to
it. Sounds like a line out of Seinfeld, huh? :)
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>>Saturday: Claude Hall Gun Show, (Cashman Field - MS) SBS Garden Party,
>>Happy Hour, Michael Cagle Show, Rocky Horror Picture Show
>One assumes that at TBD or Tramps there will be a meal available?
As of this time anything after the Garden Party on Saturday should be
considered iffy. Michael has not responded yet to my acceptance of his
offer. (I just sent a follow-up.)
Tushell has indicated that their planned dinner-show for that evening
is a NO-GO, so we might think of some kind of after-Cagle thing.
I also wrote to Anthony regarding the possibility of a FFO performance
of RHPS that evening. No response, so far at least.
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>>The big item this coming month is to get all activities which need any
>>kind of a sign-up or hoop-jump solid, .... After April 1 it's
>Yeah, Yeah, Yeah! :-)
The Beatles! From 1964! Another blast from the past ... {imagine
Columbia School Of Broadcasting hypey AM radio voice here}
>>I would like to ask everybody to please look over the schedule of
[bobbitt]
>Looked over, commented on, and approved by me, personally! :-)
>>As mentioned, we are in danger of losing one of our more popular
[munch]
>Sad if this doesn't happen. I'd volunteer but but middle initials are
>DNV and it's a little hard to organise anything from here.
Well, the lost has been found, so DNV doesn't have to volunteer. :)
>>Latest numbers. As you'll see, a number of new registrations have come
>>in. Big news is that two of our recent registrants are from the UK and
>>The Netherlands.
>IO just want to point out that New Zealand is STILL FURTHER away from
>Las Vegas than BOTH the UK and The Netherlands. :-)
{put some witty comment in here}
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>>>I think that a 30 min space is a good thing. It does let everyone get
>Ummm... It depends on where the Limo pickup is. AT MGM in 2002 we were
>in a very public thoroughfare near the Hotel check-in / registration
>and we congregated in groups. There were no slots or poker machines in
>the immediate vicinity and I think if IRC that the Limo's were running
>a few minutes late.
I think "congregated in groups" is the key here.
IIRC, the big front casino entrance at Venetian is not a drive-up
entrance, and the entrance by the valet park and such is at the end of
kind of an arcade that leads down away from the casino toward the hotel
desk. That's most likely where the limos will assemble.
In other words, more like the MGM in 2002 than Bally's in 2003.
>Last year wasn't really an issue as the pickup was outside a side door
>of Bally's and the machines etc were right there to hide in front of!
>>>I prefer the Limos but we will check to see waht the difference
>>>inprice is for the SUVs.
>IMHO we should try the SUV's and see how they go. While the stretched
>limo's worked well, it doesn't hurt to try something different and see
>what happens. As I said with more people it may make the whole thing a
>series of fewer bigger roving parties.
I think I would enjoy the limos better, but if the group wants the
larger SUV type ones, I'm willing to try it. AFAIC, it's up to those who
volunteered to coordinate the activity to make the decisions, advised,
of course, by the group here.
If I were coordinating the limo tour (but I'm not, so I won't) I would
want to try something along the line of the regular limos, but mixing up
the riders and limos at each stop to get the people to circulate a bit
more.
>Once again I hope we don't have too much wind to contend with and the
>walking from the various drop off locations to where there are decent
>photo ops aren't too long. This was a real downer last year!
The wind, we can't do too much about. As for the long hikes from the
drop-off points, it was my impression that some of the casinos that were
picked as photo stops had some restrictions on where visiting limos
could discharge and pick up nonpaying, nongaming riff-raff such as us.
:)
>>Any other comments about the timing? Ladies? (Gentlemen?)
>If we have at 8:00pm pickup what time is the finish (11:00, midnight?)
Since I assume it's a three hour tour (chorus: A three hour tour!) then it
will wind up right about 11.
Thanks, Michelle, good summary!
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Big Sister report:
Jenni writes:
>Just to bring you up to what the head count is for the Big/Little
>Sister program:
>Big Sisters 10
>Little Sisters 10
>I am greatly pleased at the response from our group to the call for Big
>Sisters. Nora and I thank all of you for being there when called upon.
>We are still about 8 weeks out, and if this continues true to form, we
>will have more little sisters. We might be able to accommodate more
>Little Sisters by asking some Big Sisters to take more than one. I will
>be a Big Sister and can do that. I am sure Nora is planning on being a
>Big Sister as well.
>Thank you for the past two-three mailings announcing our need. Even
>though we are even at this point, Little vs. Big sisters, there is no
>guarantee as to whether we have best matches. We will hope for more
>volunteers and keep our fingers crossed at the same time.
And thank YOU (you being plural here, Jenni and Nora) for your effort
toward the Big Sister program. Let us know if you want more volunteer
announcements.
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Limo details:
Tootsye, Aiko write, partly from conversations, summary to keep
everybody in the loop:
T>I plan to ask for a price quote for the use of six white stretch
T>Limos, for Thursday evening. I think we use them for about three
T>hours? We plan to limit the number of girls to 36, six in each limo.
T>We think that any more than that will just be too hard to manage.
Ok, I'll get the limit set to 36.
T>We expect to offer the seats on a first come first serve basis, with
T>prepayment required. Jamie thinks she can set up a way to collect fees
T>before we get there, but if not, we will issue tickets between Sunday,
T>May 2, and Wednesday evening, or whenever the Limo company cuts off
T>the time to pay!
A>BTW, unless Bell-Trans has changed policy, you don't have to have
A>upfront money when ordering limos. You tell them when and where you
A>want them, and they show up. Ask them to have the drivers hold DLV
A>signs, so you know which limos are for us. The payment of limos is
A>collected by the driver at the conclusion of whatever time you
A>designate.
A>In 2002, I printed out the entire limo tour sign-up sheet and carried
A>it with me to the conclusion of the Limo Tour. As far as collecting
A>$, when one of the first 36 sign-up attendees paid for the LT, I would
A>put a green check mark by their name. When I gave them a LT pass, I
A>would then add a pink check mark by their name. That way, I could
A>immediately identify who had paid and who had been issued a LT ticket.
I'll be able to give you a machine-readable sign-up summary either by
e-mail or on the web just prior to DLV, and a hardcopy at DLV.
A>If you are doing the registration, it should be very simple for you to
A>collect $ for the LT during an attendee's registration. So, I really
A>don't see a need for pre-pay, except for those who won't arrive before
A>Thursday, and signed up on the first 36.
Knowing the habits of our group, if prepayment prior to DLV is
mandatory, response will be very low, plus you will be absolutely
deluged at DLV with those wanting to get in on it.
A>I had one concern when I was doing the LT. Remember where you are -
A>in a public place, with many people watching you collect a lot of
A>money. Please be aware that you might end up being someone's target
A>for robbery. I made sure that I had at least two others with me when
A>exiting a building, especially at night, to my car. Also, be aware of
A>who might be following you back to the hotel.
T>We thought we would ask each rider their drink of choice and try to
T>match them up in the limos? Wine, beer, or small single drink bottles?
T>othing fancy! If you want a Margarita you will be out of luck! <g>
If you want me to add beverage selection checkboxes on the sign-up
screen, we can do that and give you a printout of the selections. Or,
you might consider just asking for beverage preference when they pay for
the limo.
T>Since you {Aiko} have been through this, we will be pleased for you
T>to critique any thing that we do! We just want everyone to have fun
T>memorable experience!
A>If I may offer a suggestion(s), Annie will send the sign-up newsletter
A>around the first of April. The way both Monique and I did it in 2002
A>and 2003, was the first 36 that signed up had first priority to pay
A>for seats on the LT.
A>If any of the 36 didn't pay by Wed p.m., the vacant seats opened up to
A>whomever was on the list at 37+, on a first come first serve basis.
A>So, I don't think you have to have a pre-payment hoop to jump through,
A>unless someone is not going to arrive til Thursday. You should be
A>able to collect for the LT prior to Thursday. If you don't think you
A>will fill up 6 limos, you can call and cancel whatever you need to on
A>Thursday morning.
This year with the sign-up list (the interim and final summary
listings), I'll be including the estimated real-world turnout projection
based on the past few years of recording the no-show rates for newcomers
and returnees. This will give you a very good idea of how deep into the
waiting list you can go, and if there will be any need to cancel any
limos.
As you know, registrations are brisk and the limo tour always gets a
good percentage of those present, so I have no doubt that 36 spots will
be able to be sold.
When you set a price, please let me know so I can get this in the
"teaser" for the mailing and on the sign-up screen.
I also want to commend you for setting a reasonable limit. I agree that
six limos is a good practical limit, and going above that is just asking
for a hassle.
"I have a limo, ride in the trunk,
I lock the doors in case I get drunk." :) :)
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Summary schedule of activities:
This schedule is preliminary and is subject to change
without notice.
Sunday, May 2:
10:15am Metro Comm Church service (MCC - SV)
5:30pm Pre-DLV Happy Hour (Freezone - SV)
6:30pm Pre-DLV dinner (Milano's - MV)
8:00pm Pre-DLV get-together (Spotlight lounge - SV)
Monday, May 3:
10:00am Trip to Rhyolite (Rhyolite - MS)
1:00pm Lunch with or without Ginger (Sahara buffet - MS)
5:00pm Happy Hour (Hamburger Mary's - MV)
6:00pm Dinner (Hamburger Mary's - MV)
8:00pm Welcome Celebration (Flex - SV)
Tuesday, May 4:
10:30am Thrift Shop Tour (Various - MS)
10:30am Boat cruise (Lake Mead - MS)
1:00pm Lunch with or without Ginger (Sahara buffet - MS)
1:30pm Bowling (Bowling alley - MS)
6:00pm NSD local Happy Hour (Las Vegas Lounge)
6:00pm Night of the Soiled Doves (TBA)
Wednesday, May 5:
10:30am Star Trek Experience (LV Hilton)
11:00am Hidden Woman Open House (Sahara (suite) - SV)
1:00pm Buffet Lunch (Bellagio buffet - MS)
1:00pm Lunch with or without Ginger (Sahara buffet - MS)
2:00pm Shopping expedition (LV Premium Outlets - MS)
5:00pm Happy Hour (Hard Rock Cafe - MV)
6:00pm Hard Rock Dinner (Hard Rock Cafe - MV)
Ev Secretaries Night (HRC - MV)
10:00pm Karaoke (Goodtimes - SV)
Thursday, May 6:
AM-PM Golf (Desert Rose - MS)
10:00am Art tour (TBD - MS)
1:00pm Lunch with or without Ginger (Sahara buffet - MS)
1:00pm Glamour Boutique Open House (Glamour Boutique - SV)
5:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
6:00pm V, The Ultimate Variety Show (Venetian - MS)
8:00pm Big Show Pity Party (Mindy's residence - SV(s))
8:15pm Limo Tour (Venetian - MS)
Friday, May 7:
2:00am Charles Bar get-together (Bellagio - MS)
1:00pm Lunch with or without Ginger (Sahara buffet - MS)
2:00pm Bad Attitude Corset Workshop (Bad Attitude Boutique)
2:00pm High Tea (TBD - MS)
5:00pm Happy Hour (Carluccio's - MV)
6:00pm Carluccio's Dinner (Carluccio's Tivoli Gardens - MV)
7:30pm Annual Mixer (Goodtimes - SV)
Saturday, May 8:
10:00am Claude Hall Gun Show (Cashman Field - MS)
11:00am SBS Garden Party (Mindy's residence - SV)
5:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
7:00pm Michael Cagle Show (Tramps)
12:00m Rocky Horror Picture Show (Highly tentative)
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