From: Annie (annie@geekbabe.com)
Date: Wed Jun 11 2003 - 07:28:10 CDT
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This mailing:
Another very long mailing, but full of some very good discussion.
Intertwined are various comments about the dates and days of the week
for DLV.
We've had a number of comments in support of a Monday-Saturday DLV with
no major objections so far, and mixed comments about the 3-8 and the
17-22 timeframes, with the 17-22 timeframe appearing to be the favorite.
High Tea fans, please be sure to see the notes about this activity
and the schedule days in Monique's item below.
If anybody has any strong opinions on either of these timeframes,
especially any strong negatives about either, let's get these on the
table and discuss them now, since the way things are heading there will
be a call for votes between these two next month.
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Activities:
Tina writes:
>>I want to add another possible activity I belive Tina mentioned in the
>>early DLV'03ORG days...'Bowling'. I think this would be fun.
>I may have mentioned it when making a summary list of suggestions from
>others, but bowling isn't something I'm personally interested in. Weak
>ankles. Long nails. Low scores.
You can keep score ... or rather babysit the electronic scoreboard. :)
See Monique's notes below.
>>2. Suggestion in feedback of a slut/fetish party at Mindy's. There
>>was a note that SBS should co-sponsor this. :) (Really)
>Mindy has children. I know I wouldn't feel comfortable doing this
>there, although I like the theme a lot. It's the type of thing to have
>at an off-night (non-karaoke, non-drag) at one of our regular places
>(example: Tuesdays and Thursdays at Goodtimes are both very quiet, Flex
>and Spotlight also have their quiet nights).
It's actually going to be the people who volunteer to coordinate the
slut/fetish thing as to where and when.
It was mentioned in another conversation that we should offer Mindy the
"right of first refusal" to host(ess) this activity.
See Mindy's notes and Monique's notes and such below (or above?).
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>>>Also, I would like to suggest something a bit different for DLV'04, a
>>>post-DLV gathering on Sunday May 9th (Mother's Day), which would be
>>>fun.
>>I think we're gonna run into trouble suggesting anything on Mother's
>>Day.
>I have to say that I'm personally against these dates. Ending with a
>big bang on Saturday really means 2 AM or later Sunday (which already
>is Mother's Day), assuming you catch even a few hours sleep, pack,
>check out and catch a 1 PM flight, you'll lose hours with the timezone
>change flying East and Mother's Day will be over before you ever land,
>if your trip is at all long.
>My wife has never been a big fan of DLV, but the only time she ever
>went ballistic about it was the year I missed Mother's Day. She is
>the mother of my children, even if she's not my mother. (My own Mother
>wasn't even that upset.) She told me to never miss Mother's Day again
>for my "hobby" (her word). We just celebrated our 25th wedding
>anniversary last week and we have children ages 12 and 14. We've
>progressed to the point where for the last 2 years I now can dress at
>home and come and go freely. I used to only dress when traveling, when
>checked into a local cheapo motel, or when I used to have my own
>apartment on the side. (Thanks Julie for the great advice that quiet
>Sunday night at Keys back at DLV 2000 about how to handle children who
>see Daddy dressed as a woman. My therapist gave me the same advice
>since then in much longer and more expensive form.)
>So, I wouldn't want to have to make that choice. And I don't think its
>cost-effective to come out for a few days and then go home early.
Ok, one more checkmark for the 17-22 timeframe. {squeak}
>BTW, when is that damn Laughlin Run motorcycle thing this year? When
>is Easter?
Good point.
Laughlin River Run is tentatively scheduled for April 21-25, before the
two proposed DLV timeframes.
As for Easter (quickly calculating moon phases) it will be April 11 in
2004, giving us a Peep Season of about 2 months. :)
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San Remo rooms + random thoughts:
Jamie writes:
>I found our room to be very comfortable. We had two Qween beds. We did
>have some mechanical troubles with some lighting, and the bulbs were
>very low wattage. We replaced the bulbs, during our stay. The room and
>tower (Silver, I think) was kept clean and the temp was comfortable.
>I would base my decision, 80%, for room next year on price. I had
>initally booked the Sahara, until I saw San Remo's lower price.
>The parking works very good there too. All of the staff, except
>William, was "EXCELLENT". The casino seemd to always have people in it.
>I feel that having DLV over Mothers Day could reduce our attendance. I
>would like to see a Monday thru Sat event, with an "unofficial" get
>together on Sunday, after church.
Ok, {squeak} one more mark for the later timeframe. It appears that the
after-N+I DLV schedule is gaining support.
>I didnt mind the temps so much as the WIND!!!. That probably is not
>something that we can schedule around though.
>Having the Limo company stock the Limos could be better than self
>supply, in that we would still need to have them stock ice, unless we
>all bring coolers(not a pretty picture). The organizers will have to
>check on the costs of stocking. Plus, I like my wine prechilled.
>I guess I am too far out in the sticks, but what convention are we
>talking about scheduling in conjunction with?
This is Networld+Interop (www.interop.net) which is a data networking
convention held each April/May in Las Vegas. Almost all of our
intercontinental attendees and some of our stateside ones do both N+I
and DLV. It's doubtful that most of the people who have come from
Europe, South America, and New Zealand would have done so if they could
not leverage the situation and get in DLV on the same plane ticket.
I know of four (including me) this year who also attended N+I.
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San Remo:
(redirected to dlvorg list)
Monique writes:
>Tootsye,
>GF, sorry to hear you had such the problem at the San Remo, esp during
>checkout.
>I don't know what room you were in, with the complaints of poor
>lighting, etc (which, BTW I experienced at the Sahara at DLV'01 and
>DLV'02), Rhianna's and my room was well lighted and I was quite elated
>with the quality and lighting in our room.
>The Sahara is a great place to stay, IMO. I've stayed there 2 years our
>of the 3 years while at DLV.
>I'll probably not go back to the Sahara because it is too big, not
>quaint, and too far north on the strip and too far away om the other
>DLV activities. I had a good, no GREAT experience at the San Remo and I
>will be promoting the San Remo to other DLV future attendees (and no I
>don't get a kickback).
>All IMHO.
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Various planning comments:
Anya writes:
>>I'm not hearing any calling formalize, or steer in the direction of a
>>convention this year.
>IMHO DLV is a vacation not a convention. I hope it never becomes a
>convention.
It won't. If there's a calling for more of a convention type thing,
those who want it are always free to plan one. DLV the vacation ain't
goin away!
>>1. One centralized hotel, with, yes, a hospitality suite or meeting room.
>IMHO not necessary.
Agreed.
>>2. Mainstream vs. alternative venues.
>Definitely mainstream venues
<stuckCD>
We need a good mix. We have a good mix. It ain't broke. We don't need
to fix it.
</stuckCD>
>>Our people seemed to gravitate toward 2 of them, those being Sahara and
>>San Remo.
>>Both seem to be all right, but very spread apart.
We have fans of both of these and we've had complaints about both. We've
had some of the San Remo issues appear here and on the discussion forum.
I also heard a few comments about the Sahara not being as well
maintained as before. I even heard a remark about the elevators not
being maintained BEFORE I got stuck in one of them one night. :(
>>Monique has volunteered to contact the San Remo, the goals being a
>>more agreeable restroom "policy" and a break on the rates for our
>>group.
>Good idea. It is certainly worth a try.
Let's see what she comes up with.
>>With our model of DLV it's impossible to require that our people stay
>>in any particular hotel.
>Agreed, after all DLV is a vacation. Differelt people look for
>different hotel experiences.
I see the hotel suggestions as an option for those who want to stay
where some of the others are staying. It's also a chance that we will
have a financial incentive as well, but from what I've seen, it's been
the case that rates offered to smaller groups are seldom lower than
what's available to the general public.
>>My only concern is that {a meeting room} should be paid for by those
>>who use it, and that those who don't need it or don't want it not
>>subsidize it.
>Amen.
Hallelujah!
>>However, a point, which I consider to be very valid, has been raised,
>>and that is that we should be extremely careful in any expansion of
>>the slate of mainstream actvities until we get a firm handle on the
>>difficulties encountered in some of the mainstream venues this year.
>A good point, but still remember that many incidents are due to
>inapprpriate apperance or conduct.
Yes, agreed. Most incidents do have a basis of our people being too
obvious in one way or another. We'll be issuing some guidelines to our
ORG people WRT restrooms and venues, as well as making the restroom
policies more obvious on sign-up and check-in.
>>Now, speaking very freely again, one point that has been given for
>>moving some of our things to mainstream bars and clubs has been that
>>there are more available "het" gg's there. Wrong reasoning!
>I never saw scheduling activities in mainstream establishments as a way
>to find dates.
No, we have not and will not select a venue for a DLV activity in order
to maximize anybody's exposure to potential partners of any gender or
persuasion.
Those who want to look for partners are of course free to do so.
It's also been brought up that those who "hit on" gg's in mainstream
locations, or try to use TGism as a "chick magnet" attract a lot of the
wrong kind of attention while attempting to do so.
>>The purpose of our gatherings such as the Welcome Celebration and the
>>Annual mixer is not to give our people maximum exposure to potential
>>partners. Those who are seeking somebody to wake up with, either for
>>the next morning or for a lifetime, can seek them on their own.
>Amen
Thank you. :)
>>The availablity of potential partners should be a neutral factor in
>>our selection of venues in which to hold our activities.
>Agreed.
Most everybody does agree on this point.
>>I'm wondering if the best thing to do would have DLV terminate with a
>>big bang on Saturday. Of course people would be free to stay late if
>>they wanted, but this would give us our largest crowd on Saturday
>>evening.
>Keep the Sunday trip and dinner option.
It's always an option to come as early as you want and leave as late
as you want, but we do have to draw the line somewhere regarding what
are the "official" DLV dates. It looks like the group here is behind
a Monday-Saturday schedule for this coming year.
There are always requests to make it longer, but again, there are not
very many who will add "I personally volunteer to coordinate one more
nontrivial activity" to their request to extend the DLV period.
>I prefer the option after N+I #2. I already have two cosecutive weeks
>vacation scheduled.
It looks like this option is indeed gaining support.
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Activity comments:
Anya writes:
>>I'm putting the side trip to Rhyolite on the proposed list. ...
[deletia]
>>I want to do this on the first morning and afternoon. I think it
>Good idea. remember Rhyolite is a 124 mile drive one way, and Rachel
>was 151 miles.
This will be a little quicker then.
If I'm coordinating this one, I think I'll just suggest carpooling in
regular cars, unless somebody wants to take on coordinating a van thing.
>>The side trip to Area 51 worked well, and this could be something very
>>similar.
>IMHO Area 51 worked out very well for me. Remember on the trip to
>Rhyolite to schedule a good meal.
The only town of any size on that route is Pahrump, so we might plan for
brunch at one of the casinos there. Maybe Julie Anne can suggest one. I
know Terrible's is there, and that one of the others burned to the
ground recently. Maybe there's a non-casino place as well.
We could even pick up JA on the way. :)
Julie Anne, you listening in?
>>For those who don't know the history here, this will be the 4th time
>>this is scheduled. It never really happened due to such thing as ...
>Let us commit to this.
Oh yes, it will happen. Densie needs some miles on the rusty bicycle. :)
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>>+2. Would be interested in a major headliner show like Tom Jones, Penn
>>+& Teller, etc.
>I would be. I would see Penn and Teller.
I would too. I've enjoyed them on TV, but never seen them live.
>I would see Mamma Mia again, that will set you back $93.50 per person.
>Price would be an issue for some, but you get what you pay for.
OUCH!
>>"V" The Ultimate Variety Show. If the group here wants, I'll look into
>>getting us a deal on this show which is playing at the Venetian. This
[munch]
>>I can see this working either as a primary show on Saturday, or a
>>non-primary show on a weekday evening, depending on what somebody
>I think this would work out well. The Venetian is a very nice hotel. It
>is a very large property.
>As far as restroom issues go, there are some in their convention
>facilities that don't receive much use in the evenings, not far from
>the theater.
>There are many good places to eat, though most are a little bit
>pricey, but the food is worth it.
Been there, played there, never eaten there than I can remember.
One idea might be to do "V" for the big feature show on Saturday and
have Penn & Teller for a weekday evening. I'm sure "V" will be less
expensive than P&T, so we can go for maximum turnout with "V" on
Saturday.
Comments?
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>>I'm also volunteering to do one smaller side trip, such as Red Rock
>>Canyon, Valley Of Fire, or a drive around Lake Mead.
>We could go to the Mad Greek Cafe in Baker, CA, home of the world's
>largest thermometer.
Awful long drive just to eat. Actually that thermometer is at the Bun
Boy (same ownership as Mad Greek, or so they say) in Baker. This would
be a good mid trip break for a shopping expedition to the outlets at
Barstow, but that's really a long drive to shop.
The drive to Baker is actually quite scenic over the mountains and desert
valleys in eastern California.
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>>Carluccio's worked so well along with it this past year that I'm just
>Let's do Carluccio's again , I was impressed, and let's get more space,
>maybe bigger tables i.e. banquet rounds..
We'll probably have to take what is available. It is my impression,
however, that we could overflow into the room by the bar if necessary.
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>>+4. Let's try The Hard rock Cafe for supper next time out.
>>Agreed. I would like to find a way to work this into the schedule next
>>year.
>I enjoyed it, and would do it again. The Hard Rock Cafe was really good
>to us, and kept our wait for seating short.
Plus there will be no restroom issues here. I think it's a given that
this will be on the DLV 2004 schedule.
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>>+More use of
>>+mainstream Casino lounges instead of secluded places: Flex, Goodtimes,
>I really do like the mainsteam casino lounges. I think my favorite is
>the Fontana Bar in Bellagio, when Jimmy Hopper is playing. There are
>also three very nice lounges in Mandalay Bay.
This really depends on what our people (that's us here, those reading
this right now) volunteer to plan.
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>>Smaller? Anyway, this will most likely be up to those who volunteer
>>to do name tags this year.
>A good possibility, however I choose not to wear one.
I am for keeping these optional, even though the survey said without
question that the majority liked them.
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>>Ok, gang, I dunno who wrote this, but AFAIC, it will be Monique who
>>decides her own limits. Hopefully she sets these limits within her
>>energy and comfort levels, but that will be her call.
>I really admire Monique's desire to give of herself to DLV. The old
>saying goes it is better to give than to receive. Keep it up.
Yes, we do need to recognize and encourage those who have given to DLV.
We do need to be careful not to burn people out, and burn-out is very
common among volunteers in the t* community. A burned-out volunteer is
worse than no volunteer at all.
I believe, however, that it's primarily the responsibility of the
volunteer to make the call as to when he or she has reached those
limits. Hopefully it will be realized before burn-out occurs.
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>>+17. a central hotel with a hospitality suite for signups and payments
>>+would be helpful
>DLV is a vacation not a convention.
QED!
>>+I would like to see the group attend the clubs in the casinos, and
>>+leave the neighborhood gay bars to those who enjoy that environment.
>I think it's worth a try, but I must admit many don't seem to have an
>interest in hanging out in Bellagio or Mandalay Bay, etc.
Many of our people aren't ready for things like that, and of those who
are, many of them are not too keen on having large groups in places
like that.
Again, it's up to those who want those things to happen to plan them.
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>>We'll put {Diane} down to coordinate a shopping trip. A suggestion
>The outlet mall at Charleston and I-15 is almost finished. I think this
>is the ideal place for our next outlet trip. It will be called the Las
>Vegas Premium Outlets.
Diane, you taking notes? :)
>>+d. Would it be possible to get/find a non denominational church service
>>+to attend - Preferably one with an open mind. Although I'm about 275
>I think you would do well at the MCC church near Sahara and Maryland
>parkway. I have been there.
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>>>{Densie} will coordinate the Galiano Challenge,
>>And some people might not think you're serious on this.
>I am willing to drink some Galliano as long as I do not have to drive.
But will you be able to tell which of two drinks (if any) contains
Galiano [sic] and will you know it before it's too late? :) :) :)
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>>Ok, Brunch with or without Tina becomes Lunch with or without Ginger
>>for next year.
>Good idea, and let's not forget the Bellagio Buffet. FYI, the train
>between Bellagio and Monte Carlo is closed.
>My two cents worth, ANYA, here in 100 degree Las Vegas.
And worth every degree. :)
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Golf, Pity Party, Flash-N-Trash:
Mindy writes:
>dont know how it got missed.. i will do the golf again next year..
>anybody want to help me?
Ok, thanks, Mindy, I've got you on the list now.
>on the events at my house.. they would be the sbs social of course.
>diane wants to do the tea there and either the pity party or a flash
>and trash party.. lets discuss that more..
As for "tea", do you mean the traditional High Tea?
... and a related note, redirected to the org list:
>i think i mentioned in an earlier message that a private evening event
>at our home is fine..
>will need to establish a few groundrules.. the flashy is ok trashy
>with some restrictions.. no exposed genitals ect..
>figured to run something from around 8 pm to whenever as an option to
>the big show/limo tour. give the gals a chance to dress up.. would
>most likely be a cocktail party and maybe a small drag show.
I still have concerns about having a Trash-N-Flash party up against
the show/limo combination, particularly the limo tour.
Both the Trash-N-Flash and Limo Tour would be very strong in attracting
our people, but the Limo Tour requires $$$ and a hoop-jump, so I have a
feeling that running these against each other would result in a poor
turnout or a high no-show rate for the Limo Tour, which has been one of
our strongest activities for the last few years.
I would like to hear comments from the people who have volunteered to
do the limo tour this coming year with regard to this.
Comments, ladies?
>would require a donation. but be inexpensive likely in the 10 to 15
>doller range. (gotta find a way to make the donation mandatory *LOL*)
Just have the kitty right at the door where it cannot be avoided. :)
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Error:
Michelle writes:
>I sense a potential problem with this activity:
+ activity/030530114112.act
+ Activity Name Golf
+ Possible "Timezone Options" Wkday, AM-PM
+ Location or Venue Bowling alley
+ Expected Dress Casual or athletic
+ Expected Cost (If any) TBD
+ Maximum Numbers (If any) 24, 28, 32 ...
+ Organiser Required and who Yes
+ Comments Avoid day after limo tour
>As much as illustrious gang leader doesn't know about golf I was hoping
>you would have known enough to realise you can't play golf in a bowling
>alley!
>:-)
Uh, no, I did that intentionally to see if anybody was paying attention.
Yeah, uh, that's the ticket, I did it to see if anybody was paying
attention.
>I guess the Cust and Paste or Duplication virus has struck again!!!
:)
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Activities, San Remo, Schedule, etc.:
Monique writes:
>>I'll put you down for the Hard Rock Cafe dinner. Leah beat you to the
>>Carluccio's one unless you want to wrestle her for the honor, which
>Great, I'll coordinate the HRC dinner. As for Carlicco's, I will not
>wrestle her for the honor for she'll beat me hands down. But I'm
>willing to help her out in any way she see's fit.
>>>early DLV'03ORG days...'Bowling'. I think this would be fun.
>>That was tentative but never scheduled. I'll add this to the proposed
>Bowling activity, I'd be happy to organize this activity. Tina, get
>your bowling arm and wrist in shape :)
Ok, thanks Monique. I'll get you down as the volunteer of record for
this. I'll even bring my own ball if I can sneak it on the plane. (Don't
worry, I'm not that good at it. :)
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>>I don't want to wear out our welcome at Mindy's.
>Agreed, I also don't want to wear out our welcome at Mindy's. I'll call
>Mindy and re-discuss having the SBS Garden Party at her place, or
>perhaps we'll find another suitable location. Not to push the schedule,
>but I feel that the Saturday early to mid afternoon worked well and
>would like to suggest that timeframe again.
>As for the slut/fetish party, I personally won't call an SBS social on
>this, but if Mindy wishes to, then that may be our SBS outing for
>DLV'04. Again, I'll ring up Mindy and discuss her ideas about the
>co-SBS/DLV'04 social.
There seems to be a lot of interest, both here and off-line, regarding
this. I have one concern which I've mentioned above or below. I think
this type of activity, even though a bit far out from what we've done
in the past, would be a major success!
>I also want to take this chance to thank all of those that attended the
>SBS'03 Garden Party. We really appreciated those of you that attended.
>I also would like to thank the DLV'03Org group for allowing the Southern
>Belle Society to be a part of DLV'03.
You're very welcome, and thank you and Mindy for putting this one. The
turnout was very good (as you would expect) and I heard nothing at all
negative about it.
>Since Tootsye and company have agreed to take on the limo tour, please
>drop me out of being a co-organizer of this activity.
Ok, we can let you have first crack at it next year if you like. :)
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>>San Remo comments:
>>>Tony and I stayed at [that hotel] this weekend, and it is a total
>>>s#!+hole!=A0 I haven't seen the inside of the Del-Mar, but maybe
>>I'm sure the San Remo fans will respond to this. ...
>Denise,
>I'm very disappointed to hear about your recent experience at the San
>Remo. This concerns me greatly as my roomie (Rhianna) and I had a great
>room on the top floor of the SR. The lighting was great, the room was
>in excellent shape and we really did not have one concern during the 8
>days we both were there.
>The staff at the casino, the SOM bar, management, and the 'straight'
>patrons all treated us well and with respect. We did have one minor RR
>issue mid-week which was a misunderstanding (actually miscommunication)
>amongst the night staff and what Mindy had prearranged and what I
>followed up on. That issue was resolved after I talked to all the night
>staff management and security.
>I agree with Annie, if you and Tony had a problem with your room, I
>would have marched right downstairs and demanded a better room.
>When I talk with the SR mgmt and sales end of July for a potential
>DLV'04 group rate, I'll be asking for a full tour of the rooms they
>would block off for us and remind them about the issues you have raised
>as well at what Tootsye has also raised. I'll also be addressing the RR
>issue as well.
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>I agree with you that DLV'04 should officially start on Monday and end
>with the BIGBANG on Saturday. So, am I hearing any suggestions for a
>Pre-DLV'04 get together on either the Sat or Sun before Monday?
>This suggestion might interfere with the High Tea which was personally
>a fun time for me at DLV'03 and has been a DLV activity for the past
>two DLV's.
>>Question: Is High Tea only served on Sunday at Four Seasons or wherever?
>As far as I know, High Tea is only served on Sunday's (British
>tradition, if memory serves). As for where High Tea is served, as far
>as I know, it's only at the Four Seasons. Comments/Input would be quite
>welcome here.
Ok, High Tea fans, we need your input here. Since this is a Sunday only
affair, is it worth rethinking our schedule (Mon-Sat) in light of this?
Should we extend DLV one day earlier or later? (Start DLV with High Tea
on Sunday, maybe?)
Should we put this on the calendar as an optional unofficial activity?
If we're going to adjust the proposed dates, let's discuss it and
make the adjustments sooner, not later.
>And I'd also like to suggest to we DLV'04Org members to have a wrap-up
>session to get an initial evaluation on DLV'04 (similar to what we
>informally did on Sunday DLV'03).
Let's play this one by ear, ok? If needed, and if the appropriate people
are present and willing at the time. I doubt if all players will be
there, and I'm very uneasy making conclusions or decisions in the
absence of those whose input we need.
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>For the purpose of my trip end of July and start talking to the SR
>about block room rates, I'll start discussions around the 20 - 30 block
>rate. I suspect that the SR will want to know length of stays, etc., so
>of this 20 or 30 so we're projecting staying at the SR, I would suggest
>that those that want the block discount rate to stay from Monday thru
>Saturday (6 nights).
Thanks again for taking this on, and please let us know of your progress.
I think it's safe to say that if you can get a rate competitive with that
over at the Sahara, and that there are no restrictions on the use of the
property, 20-30 would be an absolute minimum with 50 more realistic.
I'm also sure that some will come early and stay late. I think it's
safe to say most will either arrive the day before DLV starts and/or
depart the day after DLV ends.
>Oh, Annie, one last item for me, please consider me head volunteer to be
>chieftress nametaker again. I'm also willing to print up the badges,
>etc. for DLV'04. I also would like to volunteer Tootsye and Jenna to
>help out again (comments Tootsye and Jenna? <wink>).
That's kind of a given. AFAIC you and the others have this one until
you decide not to. :)
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Big Sister:
Jenni writes:
>Annie, Thank you for these updates. I have been thinking about
>volunteering for the Big Sister program. Is there room for me there?
Yes, of course.
The position of Big Sister Coordinator is also unfilled as of this
time. We've had one person express interest, but nobody so far has
gone on record as the BSC.
Volunteers?
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Sasha's update:
Leah writes:
>Sasha's is no longer Sasha's and Sasha herself is disassociated with
>the place. It is still open under new management...... same as usual
>with food and shows.... and I think it is now called 'Tramps in Las
>Vegas' or something to that effect. No real change as far as I know
>and hopefully it can survive. When I know more I'll pass it along.
Thanks for the update. Please let us know as details emerge.
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