From: Annie (annie@geekbabe.com)
Date: Sun Sep 29 2002 - 00:11:15 CDT
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Org List
Various loose ends and such
Shows
CGT, Sasha's, Flex
Speaking of the discussion list
San Remo and Boardwalk
Hotels
Tropicana, Sahara, multimedia, badges
Nominated hotels
Summary Schedule of Activities (updated)
Administrivia
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Various loose ends and such:
Here's a laundry list of some items on the plate that may need attention:
Hotels:
We have just over a month until we will need to have our call for votes on
our suggested hotels. The hotels that have been placed in nomination so
far are:
Sahara
Imperial Palace
Bellagio
San Remo
Tropicana
If you don't see your favorite hotel on this list and want to see it
considered, please send in a brief note to the effect of "I nominate
{hotel}" via e-mail or just reply to this mailing.
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Publicity: Laura, any news on getting the DLV articles in print?
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Religious services: I think Leah was the one looking into this. Do you
have anything yet?.
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Golf: No response that I'm aware of to the questions posed in last month's
mailing. I'm going to repeat the item this month.
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Activities:
Daily brunch/lunch? This was a hot topic for a while. Is there still any
interest in this. Anybody wanna take this one on?
Bowling? Sounds to me like a good weekday afternoon activity. Any takers
to coordiate this?
Side trip(s)? Alie-Inn (area 51) was suggested. Is this gonna happen? I
know Aiko was interested in this at one time. Any other side trip ideas?
Retro night? This would probably work as an adjunct to any of several
things. Do we want to pursue this?
Red Shoe Night? Ditto. I know Tina is hot on this one.
Shopping trip to Primm? IIRC Kate volunteered to coordinate this. Any
suggestion on what day for this?
Swimming: Mindy, any thoughts to which day will work?
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Trivia: Ok, I give. What *is* the name of the bar at the Sahara? :)
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Shows:
Aiko writes:
>I've not seen any suggestions for a Thursday evening venue that the
>limo tour could follow.
>We could stick with a "Las Vegas type" production show, i.e. Splash,
>Men In Blue, Follies, La Cage, or perhaps an Elvis impersonator or Rat
>Pack or even a more "offbeat" show like a hypnotist.
As you say below, let's open this for discussion.
>I would be willing to coordinate the venue for Thursday evening.
Thank you, Aiko! I'm sure your efforts will be appreciated by all of
the DLV 2003 people!
>However, rather than one person (me?) deciding upon which show to
>attend, I would prefer to let the DLV girls decide which show they
>would like to attend.
>That decision needs to be determined as soon as possible in order to
>arrange the best seating and pricing. Can we put this up for
>discussion in the next mailing?
Yes, in fact, that could be the very first topic of discussion on the
new DLV Discussion List. We'll pose the question in the Sept-Oct mailing
this week (wow, looks like it will go out tomorrow) and invite everybody
to jump in.
There's some other discussion below regarding the limo tour.
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CGT, Sasha's, Flex:
Michelle (NV) writes:
>Hi Annie
Hey there, hi there, ho there. :)
>I still like Sashas on Wednesday. But if things fall in place like
>they should then Girltalk will be solidly behind Flex. BTW you
>probably know but others don't that my yahoo group supporting CGT is
>almost to 100 members! The better news is out of almost 30 new members
>that have joined this month almost 20 are locals that i have just met
>recently. (TGs are coming out of the woodwork)
And I'm sure you have only scratched the surface. I'm sure some of those
you are attracting will also participate for some or all of DLV. Through
the years, about 20% of our people have been from the LV area.
>I have a much better base to work from and Flex is a better
>atmosphere: you dont have to talk over the singer, it has a somewhat
>small but definite dance area; and a lounging, pool playing area. All
>this I think makes it easier to socialize in large groups. Plus I
>think Flex will support Girltalk better and in turn Girltalk will
>support CGT better.
>There is definitly time to put a show together for DLV week too if
>wanted or needed.
If I may take the liberty of speaking for the group, I think what is
wanted WRT time at Flex and CGT is time to socialize, meaning if there
is entertainment, it should be non-loud and not inhibit conversation.
We also don't wanna OD on shows, as we did in 1999. We will have two
shows as feature activities, at least one more as an option, and a few
lounge type entertainment things as well.
That's what I think the group wants, at least. :)
>On another note, i think Friday nights dance party could be at the Room
>inside the Velvet Lounge at the Venetian. The cover charge is 10$ and
>from what i hear its doing well as an alternative venue located right
>on the strip! Imagine 70 or 80 of us descending on this establishment!
>I assume that the annual mixer on Friday will be at Goodtimes?
Yes, unless something unexpected or tragic occurs.
>BTW: The Hidden Woman is hosting its second Fashion Show at Sashas.
>This will be on Friday November 15 at 9-11pm. And a couple of DLVers
>are certain to be in this production-Leah and yours truly included.
>I think the best night to have the limo tour might be Wed. night after
>Kareoke depending on how many want to do air tours Thurs. morning.
>This is prob bettr than after CGT when the next morning has air tours
>AND golf also ( which i am interested in but may not be able to afford)
I see the limo tour fitting either Wednesday or Thursday, depending on
how things develop. ... However ...
Wednesday is developing as an eclectic mix from which people can pick
and choose, beginning with happy hour and dinner at Sasha's, with
options of staying for Cagle or whatever entertainment they have, going
to the Improv, Karaoke at Goodtimes, and that would be a good evening
for the casino night that has been discussed.
It looks like Thursday will be a multi-track evening, with CGT being one
choice, and some kind of a show (see Aiko's note) being another. It may
be possible for some to start out at CGT and then go on to the show if
the timing and location of the show permit.
Question to Michelle and the others who frequent Flex: Did they ever get
their food service operating? IIRC, when I was there last April they
were just starting it up, but I don't remember seeing anybody eating
there when I was there several times in May.
That might be desired by those who want a minimum of moves over Thursday
evening. I'm gonna pencil in a Happy Hour for Thursday at Flex and that
(food) would give them something convenient to eat as well.
The way it appears to me, at this very day, hour, minute, and second,
it looks like the limo tour would be a better fit on Thursday, as it
looks like the big dress-up show will occur on that night.
>I'm definitly interested in the limo tour since i helped organize it
>last year and then was unable to go on it. I dont want to miss out
>again.
>Although im not staying at any of the hotels, I do like the ideas
>presented of the Trop and San Remo. I also want to reiterate that I am
>also available to help out with rides to and fro. (can i get any more
>redundant lol)
>Any plans to go see La Cage this year. I for one-probably the only
>one, still havn't seen it.
No definite plans to do La Cage this time around, but the type of show
and the venue for the Thursday show have not been decided yet.
>(Rumours are that Kenny Kerr is also putting his Boylesque show back
>together. Staytuned for further details)
I hope Kenny gets a consistent show going again. Taking a trip to the
real world, however, I do not think it would be a good idea to make or
hold any of our plans in the hope that this happens between now and
April.
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Speaking of the discussion list:
I'm taking the liberty of adding the DLVORG group to the discussion
list, since I think it's very important that everybody here is well
aware of what is going on there. This will be a silent addition, you
will not see any introductory message, but you may see items appear
that have the "dlvdisc" prefix.
For those who may be a bit confused over this, this coming year we will
use the main DLV mailing list for announcements and other items of very
high importance, and move all of the Q&A, discussion, chit-chat, etc. to
a new forum, the DLV Discussion List.
This is a response to the (valid) comments last year that the mailing
list was becoming too verbose and people were skimming/skipping and
missing important items.
The DLV Discussion List appears in two forms, a mailing list under
separate subscription, and a web forum.
It's active now, but not much is in there yet. Hopefully the activity
will pick up with the call for discussion above.
http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/dlv2003/dlvdisc/
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San Remo and Boardwalk:
Mindy writes:
>hey annie..
Hey hey, my my ... :)
>just some info on the san remo and boardwalk.
>a friend of mine was in town in fem mode and stayed at the san remo..
>she was treated well.. several of us went to the show there in fem mode
>and were treated well at the show, bar and resturant.
>there was a minor bathroom issue which the casino manager on duty
>handled well.. we were approached by security and they requisted (very
>nicely) that we inform them if we needed to use the bathrooms and they
>would check to make sure it was all clear. for out small group this
>worked out very well and when one of us needed to make a run it was
>handled smoothly and polity.
>when we talked to the casino manager he was so pleased we didnt freak
>out we ended up with comp run of the bar and the muncie menu. needless
>to say our planned be home by 1 am turned out to be 4 am.. i am not
>sure how this would affect the diva group as a whole.. we can let it
>stand as it is our we can approach the casino for further info in
>advance as there may be many of us there at one time.. let me have some
>feedback.
San Remo does appear to be a nice place. I'm glad they are receptive to
our needs and it looks like it will be a good fit for the Saturday
goings-on next DLV.
>re the boardwalk.. a couple of the gals who attended the tge gather
>spent a couple of days at the boardwalk at the tables. the official
>policy now is the upstairs womens room is ok to us without having to
>consult anyone. the casino hostess (denise) would like any of the diva
>gals who stay there or play there to stop and see her during the
>evening..
Thanks for the feedback on this. I'll update the listing on the web.
>she has arranged a system where the diva gals can get thier
>players cards with thier fem name. because of regs it also has the
>legal name(nevada gameing law). for example john doe whos is know as
>maria delavega would get a card that says john "maria" doe. the casino
>employees are insturcted to address the player by the "" name.. we can
>also get a secound card with only the male name for those who might
>come in both modes and prefer that the fem name not be seen when they
>are in male mode.
>a note on rates at the boardwalk. if you book through any of the
>internet companies or direct with the boardwalk reservation system you
>are stuck with the rate you get at that time no matter if it goes up or
>down.. if you book through the host office you get a rate quoted at
>that time as a max and if the rates go down you get the lower rate.. so
>if you want a fixed rate then use the res system.. if you want players
>treatment then use the hosts office.
One thing on the Boardwalk, if you want this to be considered as one of
the suggested hotels for DLV 2003, please send in a nomination for it,
as it has not been nominated yet.
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Hotels:
Yvonne writes:
>Hi Annie!
Hewwo :)
>You have understood me completely, was able to summerize it clearly in
>a few sentences, and swifty incorporate it with the current voting
>plans! Thank you!
You're very welcome. :)
>You are a super editor - newletter writer - moderator - friend! 8-)
Thank you {blush}. :)
>I tend to write too *wordy* in trying to explain the idea that I'm
>thinking about.
Actually, I think it's much better to be too verbose and more explicit
than it is to be brief and unclear.
>I also agree that most returnees will probably stay at the same places
>they stayed at last year if they were satisified with that hotel, or if
>it has become their personal favorite place to stay.
Seems to me that most people were indeed satisfied, with some
exceptions. It appears that most of the DLV 2001 people who returned for
DLV 2002 stayed at the same place.
>We have repeat attendees and new people coming from all over the world,
>from different backgrounds, different tastes, different economic buget
>limits, etc. I can understand the good points discussed in selecting
>one hotel, and the good points in selecting hotels in one area for DLV
>attendees.
The call to concentrate seems to have come from two issues, confusion and
transportation. Just prior to DLV 2002 it was mentioned that it was very
confusing to have three suggested hotels. Just after DLV 2002 there were
comments about the unease of transportation, which did not really appear
to be echoed on the feedback survey.
I think if we give reasons for why we're suggesting the various hotels,
and why we're suggesting the number that we do via the vote in November,
the confusion about our methods will be eliminated.
As for transportation, there is no single hotel or set of hotels from
which there will be no transportation issue. With rare exception, each
activity will involve some kind of a ride or movement.
>I also agree with you in that no matter what the vote is, having a
>list/ranking would still be a good thing. This list and the type of
>information criteria it will/can have would help any person that plans
>to not only attend DLV, but when going to LV at other times of the
>year, and is considering a hotel or a different hotel.
I want to give out a general description of each property, where it is,
what amenities it has, the satisfaction and comfort ratings from last
DLV's feedback, and pointers to independent rating sites such as
www.ratevegas.com and cheapovegas.com.
>Not to sound like a politican, but however this issue turns out, I will
>cheerfully and fully support the group's final decision. 8-) (TOO much
>politcial tv- infomericals)
It's your decision too. All of us have had the opportunity to nominate
our favorite places, and the group as a whole will decide which of these
we will suggest to our DLV 2003 people. Lately, there really hasn't been
much in the way of "campaigning" for votes for or against any property
or class of properties.
I do think the group will make the optimal decision in November.
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Tropicana, Sahara, multimedia, badges:
>>Thanks for the report. I think this may be a viable option. Tropicana
>>is indeed less expensive than most of the others in that neighborhood
>>and does not have as many kids as the others as well.
>That's a plus, compared to Sahara. It's Romper Room hell there... they
>even had kids in the casino, playing the games, and you had to wade
>through them to get to the buffet. Mostly unattended kids...parents
>drop them off at the arcade and leave them there. Vroom, vroom, lots
>of race cars and video games.
I didn't really find the kid level objectionable. They were around, but
nothing like at c**2 or MGM. On the weekend, I did notice them in the
Nascar/arcade areas.
>Perhaps the time-share salesmen could
>make a little extra money babysitting...solve two problems at once.
Now those people ARE obnoxious. Personally, I don't see how they can
sell that many timeshares with hotel rates in LV being quite reasonable.
They seemed to have a longer leash at the Sahara this past year.
>>I've seen Showgirls of Magic twice: Once in boy-mode 3 or 4 years ago
>>and then in girl-mode last year. My experiences were roughly the same.
>Excellent show! I can't imagine why it would be any better or worse in
>girl mode...it had my laughing so hard I wasn't paying attention to what
>I or anyone else was wearing.
>>I finally finished a little multimedia slide show using some photos
>>from the last DLV. I tried to send it over to you but it is very large
>>(even though I tried to make it small it just grew and grew, had a
>>mind of its own I guess).
>I still wanna capture some of the video footage and make it into AVI
>files, or whatever, but the capture card that I bought doesn't work
>with my built-in video board. It doesn't support overlays, or
>something like that.
I forgot to tell you, one of my newest toys is a Hauppauge video capture
card, so if you want me to capture any of that into stills or streaming
video, let me know. (I've actually used it for a couple Anniecam <tm>
shows for the IRC people. :)
>Badges:
>We don't need no steenkin badges.
So noted.
>>I was thinking it might be appropriate to call for a vote on Yvonne's
>>plan separately, ahead of a vote for the various properties, when I
>I am thinking that we should all stay wherever we want to, but anyone
>who is not staying at a recommended hotel will have to be sure to
>arrange local transportation.
I think this is a good idea. Those who will need a ride, whether it's
through volunteer ride share or a shuttle, if it happens, will be asked
to stay at one of the suggested places.
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Nominated hotels:
This will be an ongoing item until the vote in November.
(In order of nomination)
Sahara
Imperial Palace
Bellagio
San Remo
Tropicana
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Summary Schedule of Activities (updated):
Date Day Time Activity
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Apr 22 Tue
5:00pm Pre-DLV Happy Hour/dinner (Hamburger Mary's)
8:00pm Pre-DLV get-together
Apr 23 Wed
5:00pm Happy Hour (Sasha's)
6:30pm Dinner (Sasha's / Milano's)
???? Womens Improv (Greek Isles)
10:30pm Karaoke (Goodtimes)
Apr 24 Thu
Morn Air tours
Noonish Buffet lunch (Bellagio)
Eve Happy Hour (Flex)
Club Girl Talk
Dinner (?????)
Production show
Apr 25 Fri
Morn Air tours
Golf
5:00pm Happy Hour (Carluccio's)
6:00pm Dinner (Carluccio's)
7:30pm Annual Mixer (Goodtimes)
after Dance Night
Apr 26 Sat
7:00pm Happy Hour (San Remo)
8:00pm Buffet dinner (San Remo)
10:30pm Showgirls Of Magic
Apr 27 Sun
Aft High Tea
Side trip
Eve Farewell Get-together
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