Subject: dlvorg Helping, pushing, etc. ...
From: Annie (annie )
Date: Sun Oct 17 1999 - 14:20:23 CST
In this mailing:
Activities, etc:
Misc comments:
Helping out:
Speaking of helping:
Pushing the envelope:
Off-Topic:
Oh yes it did:
Activities, events, and schedule items:
Administrivia:
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Activities, etc:
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>>11. Dam Tour (private or public)
>>12. Outlet mall shopping.
>>13. FI show.
>>14. C&W club.
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>> Well, imao, getting on a plane takes far less than going into a 7-11
>> at 0-dark-30 and begging to use the (employees only) restroom. :)
>Could # 15 be 7-11? Pppllleeeaaasee?
Sure, why not. :)
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Misc comments:
>1. Country:
>>Question here. Are there any up-scale Country-Western type places
>>that will let us in?
>For what its worth I know that Excalibar has a a C&W restaurant in the
>lower level. One of the times I ate there there was a lot of line
>dancing going on (and in particular there was one really nice looking
>girl line dancing...very cute! :-) ).
>Actually the food wasn't bad either and it was reasonably well
>presented. Most, if not all, of the tables were booths.
>2. Going out restaurants etc...Is it Safe?
>Well .... NO it's not!
>You can get food poisoning, served the wrong meal, trip on the door
>step, have beer, wine, coffee or food spilt all over you, get charged
>to much, not served enough.... absolutely anyone of a thousand things!
>But seriously!
>I believe that if you act in a reasonable fashion that you will not
>have any problems. While some individuals might decide they can't or
>won't serve you it would be a VERY SMALL minority.
>YES! it is a risk. Like driving a car!, Flying! Crossing the street!
>Eating chicken! Having Sex!
>Is it a big risk...maybe...depends on your attitude and presentation as
>much as anything.
>3. Crowds
>>>>Do you go to
>>>>these dressed, and right out in the open, or do you make some kind
>>>Yes, this was "right out in the open"
>>>with the general public.
>Annie!!! You didn't tell us that! I thought you rented those 28,000
>people just to make sure we would be OK! I'm shocked! You really mean
>they weren't a hired crowd!! :-)
Actually, those are all the in-the-closet lurkers who found out about
us and were hanging out just to see us.
>Sorry couldn't resist it!
:)
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Helping out:
>Annie, I would love to do what I can to help, but there are a
>couple of probllems. 1. I don't know if I am going to make it. 2.
>I've never been before, so I don't know what you expect.
We can understand the concerns. However, the important thing is that
you're willing to pitch in and help. :)
>>Things can be simple, for example, if a group dinner is high on your
>>priority list, all that needs to be done is to find a restaurant that
>>is popular with the group and make a reservation, etc., etc. Or ...
>I could do this, but I don't know Vegas, so I don't know what places
>are good. I also don't know your group so I don't know what kind of
>food you guys like.
Actually, if you want to coordinate something like this, you probably
could do it not knowing either of the above. Somebody who knows the
group and knows Las Vegas could select one or two possible places, then
you could do the important part, the legwork of selecting a time,
getting a headcount, making the reservation, etc.
We'll have an official "call for volunteers" after the first of the
year. Think of something like that when the time comes. Thanks. :)
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Speaking of helping:
There is one thing I'm gonna ask everybody to help out with this year,
and that is spreading the word.
In 1997, word was limited almost entirely to the IRC channel.
In 1998 we had some web and newsfroup exposure, but nothing major.
In 1999 I tried to get some exposure from well-known t* group sites,
event lists, t* group newsletters, etc., but I was mostly unsuccessful
in doing so. A few responded with an offer to sell display or classified
ad space, one refused, stating a conflict with an event in Atlanta, but
most seemed to ignore my notices and queries.
I think the best we got was a small blurb in Tg Forum, but alas, that
was almost in the form of a stroke-kick, since much of the blurb was
yet another warning of the non-existant Las Vegas restroom non-law.
My feeling is that it's not too early to start spreading the word for
next May's event.
Here's what you can do, and hopefully it will not take much effort at
all:
1. If you are a member of a t* group that has a newsletter, web page,
BBS, etc., see if you can get a brief "event notice" of dlv in it. You
can either list yourself as the contact person, or refer people to the
web site (http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/)
or e-mail (dlv2000@geekbabe.com).
Better yet, offer to furnish a brief article on DLV to your group's
newletter, etc. Many newsletters need content. I'll assist with the
writing if you don't want to do it yourself.
Only thing I do ask is that you mention (in your words or mine) that
this is a "vacation, not a convention" and that it is quite different
from the usual t* conventions.
2. If you are a member of any of the well-known t* web sites (meaning
you have a better connection to those who decide on content than someone
who sends in a cold request) submit a brief notice to their events
list, if there is one, and/or post a public message in the public
message area.
Also, if you feel up to it, submit a brief article on DLV to their
features area.
3. If you have a personal website, please make a link to the main DLV
page. The url: http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/ is preferred, and it will
remain static. Feel free to use the DLV logo file at the url:
http://www.geekbabe.com/annie/dlvp.gif if you want to display it on
your site.
4. If your locale has an "alternative" newspaper (GLBT oriented),
submit a brief event notice to it. We have the {River City Beat}, and I
plan on doing so.
Anyway, this is something that everybody can do to help, which will not
take that much effort.
Thanks, gang. :)
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Pushing the envelope:
>>> somebody is eventually going to push
>>> things a bit too far and end up getting teased in
>>> public, beat up, arrested or worse.
>> I will say this. If somebody (our people or anybody)
>> goes looking for trouble, they will most certainly find it
>Well, teasing is not so bad compared to some things. Like it or not, we
>push society's envelope just by existing. Going routinely about our
>business will help society (eventually....hopefully....) relax.
>I travel about 35 weeks a year to many different cities, and usually
>go out dressed at night. I've had verbal harassment trouble in some
>cities (Chicago is consistently the worst, never a bit of trouble in
>NYC), but luckily never anything worse. I've been to LV many times
>(although last year was my first time for DLV), and gone out dressed
>there several times in the last 5 years without any trouble.
>Trouble can happen anywhere. Annie's advice to stay cool and act like
>a lady generally works. It's good advice. Use it and then get out
>there and go, girl.
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Off-Topic:
>>Bottom line is, no, you will not win a trip to Disneyworld, free Gap
>>clothes, a free Honda Civic, thousand dollar bill, M&M's, gift
[bobbitt]
>Does this mean that Craig Shergold doesn't need me to send him a
>postcard?
Well, since Craig will now be 20-some years of age, yeah, send a
card and invite him to DLV!
>Remind everyone to send in their pulltabs so we can umm... umm... do
>something with them...
Seriously, at a drag ball years ago, I saw a dress made out of
pulltabs. These were, of course, the ones you actually pulled off the
can, not those you bend up, cutting your finger in the process ...
>BTW, Eating 12 White Castles and then 6 beers is neither intelligent,
>healthy, nor feminine... :-P
Probably no worse than two glasses of Galiano. :)
... and ...
>>If you receive any of hundreds of variants of this offering incredible
>>rewards for simply forwarding e-mail, please resist the temptation to
>Say, I wonder if there's a way I can start a Chain Letter and get
>it to pay for my plane and hotel to Vegas next year?
Hey, go4it! Can't be any more obnoxious than the chain letters that are
out there in endless forwarding loops. :)
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Oh yes it did:
>> Besides, anyplace that "ma'am's" one of our people in boymode has to be
>> great! :) (Yes, this really happened.)
>Naaa, couldn't happened, <Giggle>
Uh, do I gotta name names? :)
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Activities, events, and schedule items:
1. Group dinner (theme night?)
2. Hospitality/meeting room.
3. Thrift shop tour.
4. Legacy LV show (Splash, Follies).
5. Behind-the-scenes Follies tour.
6. Concert at Hard Rock.
7. Trip to Rhyolite.
8. Rocky Horror Picture Show.
9. Makeovers, etc. (early, Fri. or Sat. Aft.)
10. Golf
11. Dam Tour (private or public)
12. Outlet mall shopping.
13. FI show.
14. C&W club.
15. Ladies room at 7-11
16. Third annual Galiano drinking contest.
Anything missing here? Incorrect? If so, send it in.
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*hugs*
annie :)
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