From: Diva Las Vegas organizers (dlvorg@geekbabe.com)
Date: Wed Jun 27 2007 - 11:00:42 CDT
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Org List
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Volunteers On Record
Large Gatherings and Various Related Topics
Schedule and Dates
BDR Discussion
Administrivia
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Volunteers On Record:
>Diane writes:
>>I agree with having a tri-part approach to dinning out. I for one,
>>will VOLUNTEER to have an upscale dinning experience on one of the
>>last nights of DLV.
>Annie writes:
>Ok, I too will volunteer to put my effort where my mouth is. I'll
>volunteer to hostess a dining venue on one of the last nights too.
>Full story in http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/dlvdisc/
There has been quite a bit of good discussion on the DLV Discussion
forum about having multi-track dining venues toward the end of DLV
2008. The venues would range from upscale/expensive to
casual/economical. This is a great idea, and so far, we have
Michelle (NZ), Diane (AZ), and Annie (Midwest) who have volunteered
to host a few of these.
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Large Gatherings and Various Related Topics:
Annie writes:
>>things change there from day to day and the fact that the credit
>>card machine only works when they want it to.
>This statement makes my bullsh*t detector go beep-beep-beep.
>If the validator is down, there are two backup methods they can use
>to validate. They can key in the transaction on a touch-tone keypad
>or do it verbally over the phone. They *CAN* accept credit cards
>if they really want to.
>However, the fact that they do this, plus a few other things leads
>me to believe that they are watching cash flow very closely. This
>is not a big red flag, but ...
>Yes, there are some issues at Elvis', but are these enough to
>summarily reject Elvis' for any kind of a group gathering?
>As a late note, there seems to be some chatter on DISC as to
>whether Elvis' is still open. Does anybody local know for sure?
>Our people appeared to enjoy it this year, both for our functions
>and on their own as kind of default after-hours place.
>It's "mainstream", but it does offer a degree of comfort that we
>don't see in Bahama Breeze, Hard Rock, etc.
>Remember, for each venue we ash-can, it means that we (and "we"
>includes all of us) have one more new venue to find. Since it looks
>like Suede is off the must-do list for 2008, that's one new large
>venue we need to find. Nixing Elvis would make two of them.
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>>How about Blue Ox as a possible welcome or farewell night?
>I think this is a possibility, with reservations.
>>Would that venue be capable of handling our group size? It looked
>>large enough to handle a group our size.
>Assuming the place is otherwise empty, I think it would SEAT 50 to
>70, but I question if they could SERVE 50-70 effectvively. My guess
>is that they don't have the kitchen staff or the wait staff to deal
>with that large a group at one time.
>Mindy, any comments?
>>We can add a 'theme' night to this... sorta like we did for
>>Elvis's 'Retro' Night. An off-the-wall idea "Sea Slut Slot" tourn
>My hunch is (Mindy, comments?) that Blue Ox management would be
>cool with an activity of ours where certain liberties with dress
>would be allowed, such as costumes, theme outfits, etc. I don't
>know for sure, however.
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>>Unfortunately, you can't force people to mix. All you can do is
>>strongly encourage them to try to mingle and make everyone feel
>>welcome.
>There are tricks that can help people mix. Anybody who has ever
>done a party knows that a shortage of seats makes for a better
>time. At our larger gatherings, it could be as simple as not
>allowing seating until HH is over, or {yes, I can hear the
>groans already} doing some mixing games to get people to talk
>to those they don't already know.
>If you follow the current threads on DISC, the ability to get
>to know others is very high on the priority list. We need to
>take steps to facilitate this.
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Schedule and Dates:
J B Green wrote:
>>What do I need to know about the job of "coordinator for the 20th" so
>>that I can decide if I should step up to that position?
As far as the dates of DLV 2008, I'll submit two guidelines that I
feel should be followed.
First, no extensions, either formal or informal, will be entertained
until the official Monday through Saturday schedule is solid,
including plans for an ending that is equally as strong, or better
than we had in 2007. This includes two-tracking of the activities
that have a limited sign-up capacity, such as Limo Tour, NSD, and
whatever new activities that will have a limited capacity.
Second, if someone wishes to coordinate an extra day, that person(s)
is not "excused" from coordinating their fair share of the normal
regularly scheduled activities.
As long as things fall into place along those lines, then proposals
for an additional day may indeed be appropriate.
>>I don't see adding a day to DLV officially to be a problem, since
>>we don't require anyone to attend for the entirety and they can
>>arrive any day, even the last day, if they wish.
The issue is not the marginal effort needed to coordinate N+1 days
or N+3 activities, but the issue of volunteer resources as a whole
and the quality of the event as a whole.
We don't yet know what the capacity of our volunteer force for 2007
will be. Yes, we have several new volunteers, but we really won't
know for some time as to how many of them will wave their hands and
scream out "ME ME ME!" when we say "who wants to ... ?"
As of this time, our focus needs to be on developing the schedule
for DLV 2007 and getting volunteers locked in to each and every
activity.
If in a reasonable time, and I would say that around the holidays
is an appropriate timeframe, we do indeed have a full, solid
schedule, including a strong ending, with volunteers assigned to
everything, venues lined up, etc., Then we can entertain a motion
to extend for one day.
>>I wonder if a casino that has a drag show would be interested in an
>>annual transgendered slot tournament... Good idea, or bad? The reason
>>I ask this is that the Casino, if so approached, might advertise that
>>slot tournament beyond DLV, and under those circumstances, we'd better
>>be prepared to have *-anyone-* attend, including public in objectionable
>>dress modes. Therefore, this may be a bad idea compared to a Blue Ox
>>style, private slot tournament.
The only casino that has a regular drag show is Riviera, and Riviera
does have the reputation of being GLBT-friendly in general. Please
feel free to make contact with the Slot Directors (or any other
appropriate persons) at Riviera and see if they would be interested
in such a thing.
A general note to all, particularly those volunteers who are new:
The overall guideline is that all DLV volunteers are, in most cases,
empowered to approach potential vendors, facilities, etc. on behalf
of DLV, using common sense.
Just be sure that you don't commit to anything, money, level of
patronage, headcount, etc. without getting the OK from this group
here.
Another guideline is that each activity must be self-supporting.
There is no common pool of funds and no "front money" that can
be used.
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BDR Discussion:
JB wrote:
>My query was: "Will the Org list be informed if this individual
>registers for DLV next year? I'm not asking for their name, although
>clearly some already know it, such as those who have witnessed or
>confronted her."
If you or others feel that there is a need for ORG to be informed
should this person re-register, yes, we can make arrangements to
do that, should this unlikely event occur.
>>I don't know what those procedures are, and I wanted the
>>notification so that we could discuss it more, should that
>>person re-register.
The procedures, as they apply to registration and attendance, can be
summed up as follows:
1. When the individual attempts to (re)register, a "challenge"
e-mail is sent, requiring the attendee to say in his/her own words
that he/she intends to abide by the BDR guidelines. Since this
person is on record for showing contempt for our guidelines, this
response will have to be convincingly sincere. If not, the
registration expires for failure to validate.
2. At check-in, the attendee is handed a copy of the BDR summary
(the "Miranda" sheet) and asked to read it. What may not be general
knowledge is that the check-in hostesses are instructed to watch the
facial expressions and the body language at this time. If anything
looks wrong, the attendee is referred to one or more of the senior
organizers for a chat. Yes, this has happened once, and the hostess
doing the check-in handled it very well. (We need you back next year!)
These steps satisfy the objective of 100% assurance that 100% of the
attendees are 100% aware of our BDR guidelines.
This also satisfies the objective that 100% of the attendees state
that they agree to abide by said guidelines.
>>We also might discuss what to do if they show up without
>>registration, although I believe we have policy in place for that,
Although we try like heck to discourage walk-ins, they do happen
and in reality, we don't want somebody who genuinely did not have
the opportunity to register to miss DLV.
The check-in hostesses have been cued to watch for anybody who
appears to be attempting to bypass procedure by showing up without
registering.
>>I don't know how we can enforce their not attending public
>>locations, for example the Sahara Buffet is not closed for just our
>>use when we go there, right?
There's been some what-iffing on this. The conclusion of the Ad Hoc
Committee back in 2003 was that in case of a confrontive or
disorderly person, to enlist the help of those whose job it is to
handle such things, such as managers, bouncers, bartenders,
security, etc. "This person is not with us and is bothering us ..."
will most likely get said twit bounced.
(Aiko w/ DLV Org moderator hat on)
As Moderator, I am closing this topic, until which time some new
and relevant material is presented.
The incident regarding the BDR violation last year has been hashed
and rehashed several times, with the outcome being basically - that
the procedures we have in place work as they are designed to.
We need to concentrate our efforts in planning the activities for
DLV 2008. We need to put all other topics on the back burner.
I'm hearing no call for changes in the BDR guidelines, or the policies
for enforcement. If anyone would like to see changes in the BDR
guidelines, they would also have to present viable options and also
volunteer to enforce those guidelines.
(Moderator's hat off)
>>I simply wanted the chance to re-open discussion in this forum to
JB, I recognize the reasoning behind your request to continue the BDR
discussion. However, this person, along with others, are "flagged"
if/when they register again for DLV. At that time, it might be wise to
then open the discussion among the Org group toward specific persons
that want to register.
We simply need to concentrate our energy on planning DLV 2008, from
now until April 2008.
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