[dlvorg] Planning for DLV 2008, etc. ...

From: Diva Las Vegas organizers (dlvorg@geekbabe.com)
Date: Wed Jun 13 2007 - 10:22:05 CDT


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Dates for DLV 2008:

>**Other proposed dates need to be nominated by the next Org mailing.
>**Unless, by the next Org mailing, there is a second to the nominated
>dates of April 7-12 , it will be dropped from the nominee list.
>**Or, we could have a vote, three way, April 6-12 vs. April 20-26 vs.
>April 21-26.

No other dates were nominated for DLV 2008, so that's now a closed issue.

There was not a second for the nominated dates of April 7-12, so it will
be dropped from the nominee list.

No one stepped up volunteered to coordinate the day of April 20th, so
that now becomes a closed issue.

Well, it seems that the dates of DLV 2008 will be Mondy, April 21
through Saturday, April 26, by acclamation.

It's been a tradiition that we have a Call For Comments from the masses,
and that will end on July 15th. If significant questions or comments
have not been brought up by July 15th, the dates for DLV 2008 of April
21 - 26 will stand.
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Planning for DLV 2008:

Joan Dupree writes:

>>could, as in the past, be the informal greeter at the MCC church
>>for their service. You might even coax those who attend church
>>into having a lunch during your non-official informal gathering. :)

>For DLV 2007 I went over to the MCC church on that Sunday. I did
>meet someone who was attending DLV. Afterward we had lunch at a
>Mexican restaurant in the Commercial Center. Then we did some pre DLV
>errands. So whether Sunday is an offical DLV day, as long as church is
>mentioned, I'm sure someone will attend.

>>However, the bottom line is that there will be no relaxation of
>>the BDR guidelines for DLV 2008.

>I'm looking at doing DLV in boymode next year. Call me Jay. I'll
>wear my short wig and Reeboks. Problem solved.

>Sincerely, Joan Mary Dupree, also known as Jay Dupree, here in
>moderately warm LV.
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Mary Beth writes:

>First of all, condolences to Tootsye on her loss.

>>>**Or, we could have a vote, three way, April 6-12 vs. April 20-26
>>>vs. April 21-26.

>I think the best thing to do is keep it as a six day DLV, with Sunday
being just a "drop-in" event somewhere for early arrivals, as was done
at the Greek Isles this year. Unless, of course, someone wants to
volunteer to co-ordinate a structured event.

>>>Besides, variety is a Good Thing<tm>.

>I'm all for variety, especially since there is such a wealth of
>places to go in Vegas that it seems a waste to go back to the same
>places over and over again. For example, I did EON at Trevi this
>year, which was very good, but it was also my second time there
>having eaten there in 2006 under its previous incarnation. If I'm
>able to attend DLV2008 I'll host a night at some other restaurant.
>(I'll start researching the guide books and web sites to find
>something comparable but different). I will also co-ordinate
>anyone who wants to go to "Rockstar Karaoke" on Monday Night at
>the Mandalay Bay House of Blues (assuming they are still doing it
>next year).

>I know I definitely won't be interested in going back to Suede, but
>that's another issue.
 
>>>Let's talk about the purpose of our larger gatherings. The way I
>>>see it, they are mixers, intended to get people to, yes, mix and
>>>mingle and circulate and get to know each other .... I think we
>>>need to take steps to encourage more "mixing" at our large
>>>gatherings..

>Unfortunately, you can't force people to mix. All you can do is
>strongly encourage them to try to mingle and make everyone feel
>welcome.
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Mindy writes:

>hey girls.

>on the subject of elvis. though it worked fine for the sat closer
>for the most part we will be looking for a new place for the pity
>party. the staff did little to help us with the show even though
>they knew several weeks in advance what we had planned.

>i also have an issue with the way things change there from day to
>day and the fact that the credit card machine only works when they
>want it to. i guess there is an issue the % charge for transactions.
>i for one usually dont carry cash so i resent having to pay the
>extreem fees associated with the atm's.

>on the subject of appearance i will make this short. we cant let
>ourselves lower our standards. for sure not all of us can pass all
>the time but i dont feel that passing is really an issue. the main
>issue is presenting a positive image to the general public. all
>this means is making a reasonable attempt to look nice.

>in my many years in the t-community i have encountered the "they
>are dammed well gonna accept me the way i am" attitude far too
>many times and all this does is give people an excuse to make fun
>of us and exclude us.

>we have come a long way as far as the way the general public sees
>us. but the in your face attitude can undo that work very quickly.

>as far as the dressing too young or too sexy we have several outlets
>for fun dress during diva. lets keep they ultra minis ect there.
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Kumiko writes:

>OK... some suggestions... to get the brain waves in motion...

>How about Blue Ox as a possible welcome or farewell night? Would
>that venue be capable of handling our group size? It looked large
>enough to handle a group our size.

>I would still like to see we having a slot tournament somewhere...
>like the (first?) trangendered annual Golf Tourn, we can have the
>(first?) annual transgendered Slot Tournament. We could still have
>it at the Blue Ox ... or elsewhere.

>This could also be an attractive event for the final evening of
>DLV also....also provided that the supplier of slot machines can
>get the day correct on their calendar.... or maybe a supportive
>casino can be another option....

>We can add a 'theme' night to this... sorta like we did for Elvis's
>'Retro' Night. An off-the-wall idea "Sea Slut Slot" tourn - dress
>like a pirate wench/slut (ie Pirates of the Carribean) and also
>compete in a slot tournament dressed... if the venue and dlv
>attendees can handle it.... I guess some rules will have to
>apply... and those that want to 'dress' well, have Glamour Boutique
>or Studio Lites offer a package to dress someone up like a that...
>if any attendee would be willing to pay the price for that type of
>make-over. Also there are many 'pirate' costumes during halloween
>due to the popularity of the movie series. Those that can't dress
>femme can come as a male pirate too.... or anything related to
>that period...

>Something like this will need at least need someone local to LV to
>organize.

>Thoughts, comments?
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Incident Repeats:

Annie writes:

>>Will the Org list be informed if this individual registers for DLV
>>next year? I'm not asking for their name, although clearly some
>>already know it, such as those who have witnessed or confronted her.

>I don't think there's a need to go out of procedure with this one
>individual. We've had procedures in place to deal with those who
>were responsible for incidents since 2004.

>My feeling is that this person will probably not try to attend
>DLV again.

>As to registration information, all volunteers have access to it
>once registration opens.

>The procedures, rather the exception to the usual procedures, can
>be summed up as follows for those who have been flagged for being
>responsible for incidents (we have very few of these):

>1. They won't get the one-click re-register or "free pass" for the
>challenge-response "I Agree" e-mail at registration. They will have
>to re-register on line and agree to abide by the rules in their own
>words.

>Since this particular individual is on record for stating no intent
>to abide by the BDR guidelines, the response to this will have to
>appear to be sincere and convincing before the registration is
>validated.

>(Now, before somebody jumps down my throat here, there are several
>other reasons you may not get the one-click and free pass. Anything
>from undeliverable e-mail, to missing two years in a row, to being
>flagged as a hard no-show and several other conditions, some not
>the fault of the attendee, will prevent it as well.)

>2. Those responsible for incidents are flagged on the sign-in
>roster. It's discreet and non-obvious, but those who check in the
>attendees know the flag and what it means. These individuals will
>get extra attention during the "Miranda" phase of the check-in.

>I doubt if this person will spend the time and money to return,
>but if it should happen, we have the procedures in place to
>deal with it. The outcome may not be warm and fuzzy, however.
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