From: Diva Las Vegas organizers (dlvorg@geekbabe.com)
Date: Wed Oct 13 2004 - 07:57:24 CDT
In this mailing:
Org List
Pins, bars, etc.
Zingers Club
Pin proofs
Final Night Wrapup and Mainstream bars
Bars and buffet
Golf plans
Golf date
Summary schedule of activities
Administrivia
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Pins, bars, etc.:
Several bar-club related items this mailing, one which looks very
promising. See note below.
Speaking of bars, has anybody on this list personally visited the
Rainbow Lounge (old Cobalt) yet? Reason I'm asking is that I received
a rather scorching negative report on it and I would be interested if
anybody had any other opinions on it.
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More pin feedback is requested. Please see below.
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Some comments about golf. Yes, at this time it appears that the evening
schedule on Wednesday will be less intense than that on Thursday, so
Thursday might be the way to go for the least night-before problems.
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Close to last call on Pinkfest in Chicago next week.
http://www.pinkmyst.com/pinkfest/
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Hotels nominated so far (In order of nomination):
Sahara
Boardwalk
Imperial Palace
San Remo/Hooters
So far no "upscale" hotels or non-casino hotels nominated. The floor is
still open for additional hotel nominations, with the vote planned for
November 17.
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Zingers Club:
Some very exciting news regarding a new club opening, Zingers, which has
some definite possibilities for us ...
Monica writes:
>Hi Annie,
>Well It is official, We were approved for our {liquor} license, Now its
>just a matter of putting on the finishing touches and open the doors.
>We would be glad to entertain whatever venues that you feel might help
>for the upcoming Diva If you have any additional questions please let
>me know, also if you want to pass along the following or my address
>please feel free
I'm sure the group will join me in congratulations, and wishes for a
long and successful endeavor! :)
The question I have, really directed toward Monica but input from all
would be appropriate, would this club be available for a "Maximum
Turnout Get-together" on Wednesday evening of DLV week?
Wow {wheels turning and dreaming here}, it would be super if we could
pull off something like a Cagle show at Zingers on Wednesday, that would
be a ticket toward a full house and then some! :)
But yes, I think this is an excellent possibility both for one or more
of our bar type activities plus after-hours and incidental drop-in
business all week long.
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+MONICA DEW AND RIKKI LACE
+PRESENT THEIR NEW TG FRIENDLY ESTABLISHMENT
+"Come and enjoy the sophisticated atmosphere and great entertainment"
+NEW NIGHT CLUB IN VEGAS!
+GRAND OPENING! HALLOWEEN NIGHT!
+Doors Open to the Public at 7:00 p.m.
+ENTERTAINMENT STARTS AT: 9:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m.
+FEATURING: THE FABULOUS LOU MARTINEZ ENTERTAINMENT
+1000 E. Sahara Ave. Ste. 105
+Las Vegas, NV 89104
+Website: www.zingersclub.com
+Information: info@zingersclub.com
+THIS IS VEGAS. WHAT HAPPENS HERE, STAYS HERE!
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For those who don't recognize the address, this is the site of the former
Keys lounge, which has a rich history with DLV.
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Pin proofs:
The first proof that was submitted back to us by the pin company was
very attractive, but differed a bit from what we had given them.
We would like everybody to please take a look at these proof images:
http://www.geekbabe.com/annie/proof1n.jpg
http://www.geekbabe.com/annie/proof1n2.jpg
http://www.geekbabe.com/annie/proof1n3.jpg
http://www.geekbabe.com/annie/proof1n4.jpg
These are the pin company's proof and some variations on the theme. Some
of these do have some artifact (imperfections) which will be removed
from the final proof.
Please let us know what you think, as the trigger is about to be pulled
on this project.
Comments?
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Final Night Wrapup and Mainstream bars:
Tootsye writes:
>Now that Michael Cagle seems to be establised in a room, what about we
>all go to his show for the final night? He has always been a big hit
>with our group and I think it appropriate that he could be the big
>ending!
Yes, we could get a group together to go where Michael happens to be
performing during DLV, which may or may not really work out with our
other plans.
Michael Cagle is currently over at the Starlite Lounge at the Stardust
on Fridays, so they tell me. He may or may not still be off and on at
the Bootlegger on Mondays as well. That's the way it is now, October,
and shows and performers change around, as we know quite well.
Starlite Lounge is right in the middle of the Stardust main casino and I
really think many of our people would shy away from it. Bootlegger is
smaller, kind of on your right as you go into the south entrance of the
(old) Belz mall.
However, I really think it's much too early to make any kinds of
definite Cagle plans for next year at this time. Performers tend to move
around, and showrooms, especially the smaller lounges, will often rotate
their lineups.
I'm going to try to get into LV next month for another event, and if I
can swing it I'll go over to the Stardust that Friday and see his show
and see if I can get a word with him before or after.
>Maybe if we have a big enough group. he would do a special show for us,
>or at least dedicate the show to us!
Something like that is what I would like to see more than just going to
where he happens to be. In the past he's been willing to perform for us
for a bucket of warm fuzzies and a daiquiri glass full of $$$.
I'm kinda hoping that one of the newer places (such as Zingers) will be
appropriate to host such a show, kinda like Keys was in 2001 and Sasha's
was in 2002 and 2003.
I just hope we can get Michael this coming year. He's on the way up,
so it's very possible that the demand for Michael may soon exceed the
supply of Michael. :)
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>As far as mainstream bars go, I would still like to check out Charlies
>Bar at the Bellagio! I never did get too it last year! <g>
Ok, I'll put the Charles Bar on the list for the traditional after the
limo tour. We can confirm the presence of Charles at that time as we
approach DLV 2005.
This is a very good mainstream bar activity. It's very out in the open,
but at that time of night it's not too crowded in the casino there.
We'll also be more explicit this coming year WRT where exactly the
Charles Bar is, how to get to it from the casino main entrance, etc.
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Bars and buffet:
Michelle (NZ) writes:
>Hi
Kia Ora :)
>>Bars:
>>I am raising the gavel and shouting "going once" on the mainstream
>>and/or upscale bar issue.
>I'm definitely one of those that have complained about the bars. Maybe
>the issue is that I am not "bar person" (male or female). If anything
>I found Goodtimes and Flex to be too noisy and too smokey. Now perhaps
>for some activities this is OK but I guess to some extent going to
>these places wasn't that dissimilar to going into a closet and hiding!
>OTOH we definitely need to find some places that can be used for the
>Welcome celebration and Annual Mixer.
Question here, by "find some places", do you mean that we should be
seriously looking for places other than Goodtimes and Flex for such
things as the WC and AM?
>I guess it would be fair to say that holding either of these in, say, a
>bar in the middle of Bellagio or The Mirage or Paris or Aladdin would
>not necessarily be most ideal.
>Having said that I do remember meeting up with Mindy, Annie and others
>at the bar in the Tropicana after DLV 2003. This type of place was
>large, had entertainment and we seemed, as a group to be reasonably
>well received. The same could be said for the bar at the San Remo
>although I realise this may change with its new look.
Hmmmm ... Local people? Is that little get-together at the Tropicana
still going on? If not, why did it stop? Any issues with the venue?
Anyway ...
Let's take the Tropicana bar as an example here, and let's imagine doing
the Welcome Celebration in that casino bar.
Although the bar itself is somewhat secluded, the trip thru the casino
would scare (away) a good portion of our newcomers, and, not to name
names, but I can see a few of our returnees and volunteers being
intimidated by the trek to the bar. These are people who have come a
long way in the past few years, but still get very nervous in wide-open
situations.
Then there's the restroom situation. With 10 or so, flying under the
radar is possible, particularly for those who are familiar with what to
do and what not to do. With 50-70 or more, the group is gonna get
noticed. There's also the anxiety factor of those who are new to using
public restrooms.
>I know there are others that have issues with the bars as well and for
>there reasons would probably prefer to be quiet simply 'cause they
>can't provide a solution. I admit that I don't have any immediate
>solutions.
I do admit that I've been approaching this with the idea in mind that it
is up to those who see it as a priority to deal with it and to find
solutions.
Let's open the floor now for those who see it as an issue, but don't
have solutions to speak up. Please do so. I would like to hear from
those who want to go more mainstream/upscale, but don't have any idea of
where.
Comments? Discussion?
I think it should be our goal (for the Welcome Celebration and Annual
Mixer and such) to have optimum turnout, translated: minimum fallout,
meaning to go for a minimum of those who are in Las Vegas but for some
reason or another choose to skip it.
It's (still) my impression that a place like Flex or Goodtimes will
result in less fallout (therefore greater turnout) for such an affair
than would some place such as the Tropicana or the San Remo casino bar.
If anybody disagrees with this last sentence, please say so, I would
like to hear your reasoning.
The one idea I'm still having trouble fully understanding is the
perception that places like Goodtimes/Flex are perceived as closets.
It seems to be that the primary difference between Goodtimes and a
casino bar is conspicuous visibility to hundreds/thousands of people.
The only difference between Goodtimes and a place such as PT's is that
Goodtimes is known to be friendly to the t* community. Both are equally
nonvisible to the Teeming Millions in Las Vegas.
Is it the visibility that's desired here? Help me understand this,
please. What really is desired that exists at the casino bars but
does not at a place like Goodtimes?
Remember that I'm one who's admittedly cynical of the shuttered hotel
conference room, commonplace in the mainline t* conventions, so the
concept of a communal closet is not really foreign to me.
Comments?
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>Buffet:
>And from a recent trip to Las Vegas (in early September) I would put
>forward the Luxor buffet as a potential candidate for buffet lovers. It
>was averagely priced at $10.95 or $11.95 and there was a wide selection
>of starters entrees and various type of food including salads, Mexican,
>Chinese (oriental), fish, beef, chicken etc. Desserts weren't bad
>either with a very wide and tempting selection. I have been into Luxor
>quite a few times dressed as a girl with no problems. Access is
>reasonably easy from the second level park through a walkway straight
>to the casino area.
Is this going to be your choice for your Eating Out Night location, or
do you want to propose this for some kind of other gathering, or just as
a general suggestion for the group?
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Golf plans:
Michelle (NZ) writes:
>>>well been doing some calling around.. there is a possibility we could
>>>get the same rate $65.00 at a resort course this year.. would like
>>>some feedback..
>I think this would be great, not that desert Rose wasn't OK.
>>>still open for discussion is the date (wed or thurs) and the format
>>>(storke or scramble).. need to get discussion started soon so i can
>>>do the bookings..
>I think for both a better quality of golf, and to ensure a larger
>turnout the best day is one that is not preceded by a key late night
>activity and that the day any activities later in the day are scheduled
>for a later start (eg after 6:00pm) As for Wednesday or Thursday the
>better day looks like
>Just briefly looking at the scheduled therefore:
+ Tuesday, April 26:
+ 6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
+ Ev Night Of The Soiled Doves II (CR - SV)
+ Wednesday, April 27:
+ 6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
+ Ev Eating Out Night (Several)
+ Ev Maximum turnout get-together (TBD)
+ Thursday, April 28:
+ 6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
+ Ev Pity Party (TBA)
+ Ev Limo Tour (Vegas, baby! - MS)
>Thursday morning looks a more likely time than say Wednesday morning
>although the evening activities on Wednesday and Tuesday respectively
>could go quite late I guess.
>My preference is to have an individual competition such as stroke play
>although we could combine this with some form of team event.
>For example each foursome is given a SPECIAL BALL (usually with some
>unique / hard to replicate logo) and each player must use this ball on
>at least 3 (or four) holes. The team with best score wins HOWEVER if
>the ball is lost then the team CANNOT use a replacement ball and
>therefore would be relegated. For this to work I guess the groups need
>have a mixture of golfing abilities unless we introduce a handicap
>(which could be easily done based on the individual scores for the
>day).
>I've played with type of thing before and it can be quite a team
>building exercise especially if the SPECIAL ball goes missing and
>choosing the best holes for each player to use the ball on. To keep
>everyone honest, the ball must be returned in "used" condition at the
>end of the day!
>Similarly we could have mystery team events, where everyone plays but
>every is randomly drawn into teams and the best three scores used for a
prize...although didn't we do that last year or the year before?????
>I would be quite happy to collate all the score cards and work out the
>results at the end of the day.
There you go, a volunteer! :)
Comments, golfers?
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Golf date:
Tawni writes:
>Hi.
Hewwo :)
>Upon discussing the planning for the day of golf, at least four of us
>Salt Lake City girls; Tawni, Valerie, Jennifer, and Barb would like to
>vote for Thursday due to the conflict with the Dance lessons
>tentatively scheduled for Wednesday.
Comments, gang? :)
>We all are getting more excited for DLV as the time draws near.
We're about half way there. And if you want something that's sooner,
<shamelessplug> there's Pinkfest next week! </shamelessplug> :)
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Summary schedule of activities:
Highly tentative, subject to change.
Sunday, April 24:
AM Religious services (Metropolitan Community Church - SV)
6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Ev Welcome Celebration (Bar, club)
Monday, April 25:
10:00am Death Valley Tour (Death Valley National Park - MS)
1:00pm Lunch With (or without) Ginger (TBD)
2:00pm Walk Off Your Lunch (TBD)
PM Bowling (TBA)
6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Tuesday, April 26:
10:30am Lake Mead Boat Cruise (Lake Mead - MS)
1:00pm Lunch With (or without) Ginger (TBD)
2:00pm Walk Off Your Lunch (TBD)
6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Ev Night Of The Soiled Doves II (CR - SV)
Wednesday, April 27:
8:00am Air Tours (Airport - MS)
1:00pm Lunch With (or without) Ginger (TBD)
2:00pm Walk Off Your Lunch (TBD)
2:30pm Ballroom Dance Instruction (Dance studio - MS)
6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Ev Eating Out Night (Several)
Ev Maximum turnout get-together (TBD)
Thursday, April 28:
10:00am Art Tour (Museum(s) - MS)
1:00pm Lunch With (or without) Ginger (TBD)
2:00pm Walk Off Your Lunch (TBD)
6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Ev Pity Party (TBA)
Ev Limo Tour (Vegas, baby! - MS)
Friday, April 29:
1:00am Charles Bar (Bellagio, Allegra Bar)
11:00am Shopping trip (Mall(s) - MS)
11:00am Secret Garden / Dolphin Habitat (Mirage)
1:00pm Lunch With (or without) Ginger (TBD)
2:00pm Walk Off Your Lunch (TBD)
6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Ev Annual Mixer (TBD)
Saturday, April 30:
AM-PM Garden Party (TBD)
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