From: Diva Las Vegas organizers (dlvorg@geekbabe.com)
Date: Wed Sep 01 2004 - 08:00:38 CDT
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Org List
Dates, show, outage
Pin comment
Regarding Hooters
Bowling, mini golf
Pride Factory
Hooters Hotel and Casino
Air Tours
Golf schedule
Dragapella
Aiko writes
Shorts and Tank top
Summary schedule of activities
Administrivia
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Dates, show, outage:
Today is September 1.
The Call For Comments period has expired, and by default the DLV
timeframe of April 24 - 30, 2005 is final. According to our standing
rule adopted last year, from this day forward it will take a 2/3
majority of the group here to change the dates. The August-September
general mailing will go out shortly and will announce these dates as
final.
Again, thanks for making this an easy one this year. :)
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As of this time it appears that Showgirls Of Magic will not be around
this coming April, at least at the San Hooters, that is. The news item
hinted that it may be moving to the Aladdin, but that is pure
speculation I'm sure.
Crystal (and all), we definitely need to think of options for our
Saturday evening plans. Fortunately we're still almost 8 months out, but
I do thing we should make it a priority to avoid a fizzle-out Saturday
this coming year.
With regrets, I'm going to have to pull the proposed Saturday plans off
the schedule at least for now, since the status of both the property and
the show are at best unknown as of this time. If the group wants, we can
do a HH and dinner at San Hooters, but we may not know what bars and
restaurants will be there until shortly before DLV.
This is not uncommon. We've had countless closures and such, some of
them at very short notice, over the history of DLV.
Comments?
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Last week I remember ranting on and on about e-mail not being a perfect
medium. As some of you know, we had a major Internet outage here last
Thursday and Friday, lasting almost 20 hours. Root cause was a fiber cut
downtown, but for hours the CLEC and ILEC were pointing fingers at each
other regarding why the circuit would not come up and stay up. It
finally came clean about 0700 Friday.
If anybody sent in anything that bounced, please resend.
I'm seriously rethinking my logic of hosting this stuff all the way out
here on what sometimes performs like 20-some miles of tin cans and
string. I kinda want to move this mess to a co-location farm, but that
costs some $$$$$. :(
If the web and e-mail for DLV should ever go down for an extended period
anybody who wants it. I normally don't check that e-mail that often but
I do if there is a disruption or outage.
Fortunately {knocking on wood} the major outages are few and far
between.
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Speaking of Internet, they tell me (the ubiquitous "they") that both
Imperial Palace and Stardust now have property-wide WIFI, with more
properties to follow shortly. I'm sure this ain't free, but it is
something of note -- to some of us that is.
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Pin comment:
JoAnn writes:
>Love the design and "the look" of the black enamel fill.
>My only suggestion is to have the size of the year "2005" reduced to
>25% of the one inch pin, rather than 33% of its area as shown. This is
>a small detail, but I believe is an important aesthetic.
>Only a suggestion---I'm happy to go along with the consensus and
>financially support what, I believe, represents a significant statement
>of our annual gathering.
I've added another sample to the url:
http://www.geekbabe.com/annie/pins.html
The last (pin10c) shows the formerly-agreed-upon design with a reduced
size "2005" date.
Comments would be appreciated.
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Regarding Hooters:
Nora writes:
>A few of us went to the San Remo a few days ago. Mindy of course wore
>her Hooters shirt. As always we were well received. Mindy being Mindy
>wore her Hooters shirt. When one of the mangers saw Mindy he sent over
>complimentary drinks.
>I do hope that is a good omen of what's to be.
T-business is good business, and I think the vast majority of the places
realize it.
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Bowling, mini golf:
Michelle (NV) writes:
>Hi Annie and all, I would like to try the bowling thing again , I
>think Monday looks so far like it wont have too many conflicts for
>those that dont go on the sidetrip.
Ok, I'll put Bowling on the schedule for Monday PM. We'll be sure this
is pre-pay this year.
>I'd also be interested in doing the miniture golf thing suggested. As
>well as being a assistant for BR dancing and golf if needed.
I've added Miniature Golf to the proposed list. You might want to pick a
timeslot now -- you can always change it later -- to tentatively reserve
the time on the calendar.
As for the Ballroom thing, I now show Diane, Tawni, Barb, and Michelle
on record for it.
Everybody (named): are we coordinating efforts?
I want to be sure that we're all working toward a common end with the
ballroom type activities. There's nothing that says we can't have two or
more ball(room)-related activities this coming year, if that's what we
want. I just want to be sure all of us are on the same page and heading
in the same direction.
Feedback?
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>Another interesteing tidbit, I have been approached by a
>representative of LVs pride committee who reportedly have been
>approaced by the Union Plaza hotel who are interested in putting on a
>party that is oriented to the transgender community!!! The idea right
>now is to set this for around Halloween week..
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>Id like to volunteer to be a contact person again this year too. What
>will make this effective though is to have phone numbers of organizers
>and hostesses.
Ok, I'll get you on the list for that. We will confirm phone numbers
as the date approaches.
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Pride Factory:
Michelle (NV) writes:
>hi everyone, I just had a great idea! There is a fantastic new venue
>called the Pride Factory a hop skip and jump away from the Spotlight
>lounge.
>It is open 24/7 and is a combination videostore, (including glbt
>oriented adult in the back) retail clothing, card, knick knack store,
>and coffee shop (with some great and very rich different flavors of
>cheeeeeeeessseecake!!!!) with plenty of room to lounge, play games and
>or watch movies. Very comfortable atmosphere.
>If we use Spotlight again for Sunday night could do it in combination
>with this venue for a game night or movie night. Also FYI The place
>has no alcohol or gaming.
>Let me know what you guys and gals think.
We have our Welcome Celebration scheduled for Sunday evening, no
location yet, but Spotlight would be an option and Pride Factory could
be a side-option during such a thing.
As for "GLBT oriented adult video" that you mentioned, let's be sure
that our ORG group here is comfortable that we're not putting a venue on
our calendar which is, uh, like many adult video parlors. From your
description, I don't think Pride Factory is this kind of place, but we
do want to confirm and be sure.
Comments, gang?
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Hooters Hotel and Casino:
The new San Hooters now has a web site.
http://www.hooterscasinohotel.com
Q&A section, drawings, even a proposed floorplan.
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Air Tours:
Densie writes:
>We should probably get air tours on the schedule, but we can two-track
>it. We have three pilots, but unless we want to take up a collection
>to get some rental airplanes, we only have one airplane. The activity
>is going to be a limited signup.
Ok, just gimme a day and time ... :)
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>>1. Do we want to designate one of our suggested hotels as "The Event
>>Hotel", making it "more suggested" than the others?
>Sure, I wanna give that woman at the Sahara Buffet a complex...and I'm
>sure we could come up with some ways to torture the timeshare salesmen.
Don't get me started about the timeshare creeps!
>Are you crazy?
Yes, actually, I am. :)
>americansoapbox.org
Hey, that car looks familiar! :)
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Golf schedule:
Aiko writes:
>>>>1st the golf.. need some feedback from the golfers
>>>>as to the day.. for reasons of the show/limo tour we need to do golf
>>>>wed or thurs. probley a better turn out on thurs.
>What if the golf tourney were held Wednesday instead of Thursday?
>Currently, the only thing scheduled during the day for Wed is the
>Ballroom Dance Instruction. If that's a conflict with the conclusion
>of golf and the awards, could the Dance Instruction be changed to
>Thursday afternoon?
Diane, other ballroomers, would there be any objection to flip-flopping
golf and the ballroom thing?
>Last year, getting up early to get ready for golf, then going to the
>production show / Pity Party, and then the Limo Tour, really made for a
>long day. If golf is on Wednesday, and the Dance Instruction is moved
>to Thursday, IMAO, there would not be quite the rush to get ready for
>EON and the Max Turn-out activity, as it would be for a Production Show
>/ Pity Party and Limo Tour, which seemed to result in some "burnout"
>with quite a few of us last year.
With the cancellation of our intended show, which was a Thursday and
Friday only thing, there's far less "glue" holding the show/limo to
Thursday.
There's also nothing really gluing EON to Wednesday either. Everything
is still highly tentative, and now is indeed the time to discuss and
make some preliminary decisions.
>If NSDII remains on Tuesday evening, we should be back in Vegas early
>enough for those that are golfing the next morning to decide between
>sleep or "burnout".
Am I to assume that there will be some kind of a Post-NSD get-together
this coming year? (No, I do not plan to suggest a venue for same this
time. {hiding in corner}) :)
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Dragapella:
Nora writes:
>From today's Review Journal (8/27 ) The Show Dragapella is running for
>2 days at the Westin Hotel.
>There is a possibility of the show getting a regular open run in Las
>Vegas. If it happens we may want to consider this for an event at DLV
>2005.
Thanks for sending this in. Please keep your eyes open for developments
and yes, it could be a good candidate for a DLV show.
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+Dressed for Success
+The men of `Dragapella,' who say they have `a large straight
+following,' are looking for a home on the Strip
_By MIKE WEATHERFORD REVIEW-JOURNAL _
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Aug-27-Fri-2004/photos/drag.jpg
+Clockwise from top, Irwin Keller as Winnie, Jeff Manabat as Trixie,
+Ben Schatz as Rachel and Chris Dilley as Trampolina make up the
+Kinsey Sicks. The "Dragapella" stars move beyond lip-syncing to real
+singing and political satire.
+What are these drag queens covering up?
+The Kinsey Sicks are the long-delayed next step for Las Vegas: A drag
+show that goes beyond lip-syncing celebrity impersonations to offer
+performers using their own voices.
+"It's certainly a very different kind of show than people often expect
+when they walk in the door," says Irwin Keller, co-founder of the
+quartet that stages a new edition of its off-Broadway show,
+"Dragapella," today at the Westin Casuarina. "Even if they expect us
+to sing, they really don't expect it to sound beautiful."
+But it's what they sing that's really important, he adds. "The thing
+about the drag for us is that it works as a mask," Keller says. "It
+really does give you an incredible freedom to articulate stuff in a
+very different voice from what you normally do.
+"Think about the ventriloquist and the dummy. The dummy can say all
+sorts of shocking stuff, and you don't blame the ventriloquist at
+all."
+If that sounds more like the satiric puppet musical "Avenue Q" than
+"An Evening at La Cage," Keller doesn't disagree. In fact, he says
+he's been told as much by people who have seen both "Dragapella" and
+"Q," the "Sesame Street" parody headed for a $40 million venue in
+Wynn Las Vegas next year.
+The "Dragapella" songs by co-founder Ben Schatz turn the Association's
+"Cherish" into "Fetish," tell what happens "When You're Good to Dubya"
+and hail the glories of "Sexy Underwear."
+Fans of the show include Frank Marino, star of "La Cage" at the
+Riviera. "It's like a `V' going off in two directions," Marino says to
+explain why "Dragapella" isn't a direct threat.
+He'd better be right, should "Dragapella" land a permanent berth on
+the Strip. The revue has twice visited the Westin's 250-seat theater
+this year, with both stops doubling as showcases for prospective
+backers of a longer run. Keller says his quartet has "a large
+straight following" beyond its core support in the gay community.
+Playing a mainstream venue such as the Westin "doesn't change in big
+ways" what they do onstage, he says. "We make choices based on that,
+but they're small choices."
+The idea was born in 1993 when four friends attended a Bette Midler
+concert in San Francisco dressed as the Andrews Sisters. Someone asked
+them to sing at a party, and Keller had to break the news that they
+didn't sing.
+But later, the four compared notes and realized they did have musical
+backgrounds. They took the name Kinsey Sicks from sex researcher Alfred
+Kinsey's 1-to-6 ranking of sexual preference, in which "6" was purely
+homosexual.
+Over the years, both Keller and Schatz gave up their day jobs as
+attorneys and activists. Keller authored Chicago's human rights
+ordinance and was director of the AIDS Legal Referral Panel of the+
+San Francisco Bay Area. Schatz headed the Gay & Lesbian Medical
+Association and advised Bill Clinton on AIDS policy during his first
+presidential campaign.
+"We did not undertake this as a means of setting about finding a way
+to overturn drag," Keller says. But as the years certified the
+popularity of the group's a capella harmonies, newer members Chris
+Dilley and Jeff Manabat were recruited for their singing strengths.
+And in the process, the Kinseys created a new genre "of which we
+remain the only example," Keller says with a laugh. "We really inhabit
+kind of different spheres" than Las Vegas' established drag shows.
+"Lord knows we are not pretty girls."
+Meanwhile, Kenny Kerr -- whose "Boy-Lesque" introduced mainstream Las
+Vegas tourists to drag in 1977 -- wraps a showcase run today at
+Sunset Station, where he spent two months trying to reintroduce "Kenny
+Kerr and Friends." And "La Cage" is gearing up for its 20th
+anniversary Sept. 18. "We've modernized the characters," Marino says,
+adding a Jennifer Lopez and "an age-appropriate Britney Spears," and
+updating the music in other tributes. As the years drained its shock
+value, some might wonder how "La Cage" could sustain interest. But
+Marino says there's a cycle of renewal every few years, usually
+sparked by a movie. "When it comes in style, it comes in big," he
+says.
+The "La Cage" cast now has high expectations for the scheduled March
+release of "Miss Congeniality 2," in which Sandra Bullock's FBI agent
+again goes undercover, this time in their show. Marino says he gets to
+use his own name in the movie, though both the setting and the show's
+name will be changed. "It's gonna bring back drag in every form," he
+predicts.
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Aiko writes:
>>If you don't receive ORG mailings, please write in and let us know,
>Ummmm....... If someone is not receiving ORG mailings, how do they know
>they are not getting them? :)
Uh, clairvoyance, maybe? :)
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>>I'm assuming that you are referring to pin10b, the last one on the
>>right, am I correct?
>Uh-huh. :)
Ok, just checking. :)
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>>>Are they referring to Tootsye? :)
>>No comment! :) :) :)
>I still think that Tootsye is the only one of us who could get away
>with the skimpy shorts and tight tank top look .... as long as Pat
>makes her leave the 6" platform heels at home.
Uh, no comment. :)
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Shorts and Tank top:
Tootsye writes:
>What is this? In the discussion report of Aug. 25 Toots was linked to
>Shorts and Tank top on the Strip!
>It is an infamous libel! Now the mini skirt, and high heel slingbacks
>at the Bellagio, and the Pink Ballgown during the Limo tour are a
>different story!
>Neither of those were my fault! Well, not intended anyway!
>I have never worn shorts anywhere in LV except to play golf, and I
>would NEVER wear a tank top! <g>
>I may wear a tight tee shirt if San Remo goes Hooters!<g>
<shamelessplug>
If you want a tight t-shirt, visit the Logo Shop at:
http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/logoshop.html
</shamelessplug>
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Summary schedule of activities:
Highly tentative, subject to change.
Sunday, April 24:
AM Religious services (Metropolitan Community Church - SV)
6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Ev Welcome Celebration (Bar, club)
Monday, April 25:
10:00am Death Valley Tour (Death Valley National Park - MS)
1:00pm Lunch With (or without) Ginger (TBD)
2:00pm Walk Off Your Lunch (TBD)
PM Bowling (TBA)
6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Tuesday, April 26:
10:30am Lake Mead Boat Cruise (Lake Mead - MS)
1:00pm Lunch With (or without) Ginger (TBD)
2:00pm Walk Off Your Lunch (TBD)
6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Ev Night Of The Soiled Doves II (CR - SV)
Wednesday, April 27:
1:00pm Lunch With (or without) Ginger (TBD)
2:00pm Walk Off Your Lunch (TBD)
2:30pm Ballroom Dance Instruction (Dance studio - MS)
6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Ev Eating Out Night (Several)
Ev Maximum turnout get-together (TBD)
Thursday, April 28:
10:00am Art Tour (Museum(s) - MS)
1:00pm Lunch With (or without) Ginger (TBD)
2:00pm Walk Off Your Lunch (TBD)
6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Ev Pity Party (TBA)
Ev Limo Tour (Vegas, baby! - MS)
Friday, April 29:
11:00am Shopping trip (Mall(s) - MS)
1:00pm Lunch With (or without) Ginger (TBD)
2:00pm Walk Off Your Lunch (TBD)
6:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Ev Annual Mixer (TBD)
Saturday, April 30:
AM-PM Garden Party (TBD)
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