From: Annie (annie@geekbabe.com)
Date: Wed Aug 20 2003 - 12:53:41 CDT
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Org List
Very important issue
RHPS, slut party, skydiving and sick stuff
High Tea double booking
Bowling, band, all kinds of things
Slut party
Secretary Night
Art Tours
Summary schedule of activities
Administrivia
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Very important issue:
Ladies (gentlemen), we have lost contact with one of our organizers, one
who took care of 4 (count 'em, four) nontrivial activities for DLV 2003.
For the past several weeks Leah's mail has been bouncing with "user
unknown" ... I have no other means of contact for her.
I'm appealing to those of you who are local to Las Vegas to try to make
contact. First of all, be sure she's ok. Second, see if she's still
interested in helping with DLV, and if so, try to get a current e-mail
address for her. Thanks.
If she is indeed out of the picture, that will place an additional
activity organizing load on the rest of us.
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RHPS, slut party, skydiving and sick stuff:
Densie writes:
>>>To Denise, a idea ... just a crazy idea ...to go along with this
>>>thread of thought ... and the nun night....
>>Another idea might be have a "slut" party as a prelude to RHPS. Back
[deletia]
>Sounds like fun to me.
Well, let's bounce this idea off the group ...
Everybody, even non-RHPS fans, please pay attention. :)
Rocky Horror only happens Saturday Night (actually Sunday Morning) at
12:00m.
That means that if we have some kind of a pre-RHPS activity, it will
occur in prime time on Saturday evening, a timeslot that we've more or
less reserved for some kind of a "big bang" social activity.
Do we want to consider having a "slut party" or something similar as
our designated "big bang" activity on Saturday evening.?
I can envision a schedule something like ...
6:00pm: Happy Hour
7:00pm: Dinner somewhere
9:00pm: Slut Party
12:00m: RHPS
after: Bar somewhere
Those who wanna do RHPS can take off in time to make it, those who don't
can stay and party on.
There are some reservations to having this at all expressed below, so I
think we should get some discussion on the floor.
Comments, ladies? (gentlemen?)
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>>>IIRC, someone also mentioned skydiving...is this still on?
>>Densie?
>Skydiving? Yes, it's on, as long as someone shows interest. I don't
>want it to be another Liberace Museum or Rhyolite Trip.
Well, we've actually been to the Liberace Museum, and we WILL go to
Rhyolite this year even if you ride a rusty bicycle carrying your weapon
of choice. :)
>I can see limited attendance on this one, not only because it's
>stressful but because it's a BM activity.
How can it be BM for those who don't have a BM? :)
>Indoor skydiving might be a better plan because you're not going to be
>strapped to an instructor. If there is interest in this, I will
>contact the skydiving center in advance and ask them if they have a
>problem with us showing up in GM.
If you could do this, it would give us an idea of what it costs and
if we have to make reservations and such.
I take it this is the place I've seen on Convention Center Drive just
down from the Stardust. Am I correct?
If it's indoors and not too far from terra firma, I may just do it.
What we could do is post a query in the next general mailing asking if
there is interest. We're still 9 months out, so I don't think the
potential attendees have even thought of what they might like to
do, etc. ...
The actual demand, of course, won't be known until activity sign-up
time.
(And some people thought the trip to Area 51 was a Bad Hair Day! :)
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>>I really don't have any idea of what this nun thing is really about. I
>>>Originally, I thought of characters from a school type to do
>>>scenarios where you have nuns and students (ie nuns discipling
>Well, let's see...what we can't do is shoot a porno film; however, if
>this is a tasteful, clothes-on parody of a Catholic school scenario or
>something along those lines, I would go for it. Perhaps we could film
>it in a room at the Del-Mar...the management would probably think we
>were shooting a porno film, but I doubt they would have a problem with
>that.
>Another idea I had, and everyone is probably going to think this is
>sick, is a funeral scene.
But it *is* sick. :) :)
>We could dress up in anything, from the most
>conservative to the bizarre, and and pose for pictures in a casket. Do
>a photo op, and we can see what we would like like as corpses in GM.
Uh ... uh ... well ... uh.
>Yes, I am actually serious. If anyone is far enough out there to go
>for this, I will provide a hearse, casket, church truck, etc. Someone
>can volunteer to bring the flowers. ;)
Uh, how do I put this? ... It's a bit far out, even for me. :)
Now riding the Strip in a hearse would be a TRIP! :)
>>But then it could be expanded to include other photo scenarios
>An excellent idea...setting up various scenarios for a big photo op.
>We could get a bunch of props together and do some stuff that is
>waaaaay out there.
>>>Or do I have the concept of nun night totally wrong from what it was
>>created as??
>The idea is to freak people out and have a good laugh about it. A bevy
>of nuns showing up at the Del-Mar and asking for an adult movie would do
>it. I also love photo shoots of bizarre and unusual stuff. This is
>just one activity, though, and has nothing to do with "what DLV is
>about". It is about a whole bunch of different stuff, all proposed by
>the participants who are willing to coordinate it, and what flies and
>what dies is really up to us.
Seriously, I don't see any reason the "slut party" couldn't include
nuns. :)
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High Tea double booking:
Jennifer writes:
>If Mindy wants to hold High Tea in her home that's great with me! I was
>under the impression that we were without a coordinator and little ole
>me got the bug to volunteer.
>How about I work as a support to Mindy?
Mindy will have the final say on that, but I'm sure she will appreciate
the assistance.
>She'll want me to help, because I know my crumpets!!! (they look like
>little white wedding cookies don't they?)
Uh, I don't know my crumpets, I admit. I think we discussed this last
year, or was it the year before that. I think most of us admitted we
didn't really know what a crumpet was.
>From Webster's:
+crum·pet (n) : a small round unsweetened bread cooked on a griddle and
+usually split and toasted before serving
+Etymology: perhaps from Middle English crompid (cake) wafer, literally,
+curled-up cake, from crumped, past participle of crumpen to curl up,
+from crump, crumb crooked, from Old English crumb; akin to Old High
+German krump crooked
+Date: 1769
There you have it. EVERYTHING you need to know about crumpets, except
what the heck they actually are. :)
>The Thursday date for High Tea at 4:00pm is fine with me. :)
It's on the schedule. When you and Mindy and Diane finalize the "where",
let us know so the schedule can be updated. No hurry. :)
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Bowling, band, all kinds of things:
Monique writes:
>>>I also see the bowling thingy perhaps happening on a Tuesday or
>>>Wednesday afternoon.
>>Ok, pick one. :)
>Seeing how the schedule is falling into place, I would suggest Tuesday
>afternoon at 1:30pm.
Ok, Tuesday at 1:30 it is.
>That would give enuf time for sisters to grab a bite of lunch and work
>off the calories they ingested and still have time enuf to get back,
>freshen up and be ready for the Tuesday eve activities.
>Comments?
Sounds like a plan to me. :)
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>>>>My questions are: Do we want to look into something like this? Where
>>>>would they play? What would we pay them with?
>>>I have the same questions; i.e. where to play and how many $'s does
>>>I can see this as the Saturday evening "Big Bang" and off the top of my
>>Well, we've decided that we want a big bang, but nobody's planned the
>>fireworks yet.
>IMO, to get the best draw and possibly make a live band the Sat. eve.
>"Big Bang", I would suggest Goodtimes or Flex. I don't see anyother
>places that would be suitable and get a large percentage of our
>attendees attend. Does anybody know if Goodtimes or Flex would
>entertain a live band.
>What again, I ask, are the costs for the band and possibly having to
>'rent' the available space at Goodtimes or Flex?
I have a query in about how much the band wants. Marilyn said she
would check with the others and get back RSN.
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>>>Registration - chieftress nametaker with help from Tootsye and Nora
>>I show Jena down as helping with this as well.
>That's correct, I was mistaken...it's Tootsie and Jena, not Nora.
>However, Nora, if you wish to assist, please step up and let us know
>for we could use your assistance.
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>>>Wednesday, May 5:
> ...
>>>{6:00 pm Dinner - Hard Rock Cafe (a sign-up would be required for the
>>Ok, I'll get that on the schedule. You are the organizer of record for
>If it OK with ya'll, lets ink in the HRC for both HH and Dinner for
>Wednesday nite.
Done.
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>>> {Possible dinner (TBD) and Show Spot (TBD)}
>>Yes, very possible for a show on Tuesday. All we need is for somebody
>>to propose and adopt it.
>Did I hear anybody mention "Aiko" as a potential organizer for this?
>She did such a great job for the Thurs eve show at DLV'03. Care to take
>this up again Sister?
Yes, I agree that Aiko did a very good job doing this. >>HINT<< :)
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>>>At Diva 02, we had something like 20 people at the very elegant
>>>hotel, the name of which escapes me just now.
>>That would be the Four Seasons, on the Mandalay Bay campus.
>It was at the Mandalay Bay for DLV'03 and the Four Seasons for DLV'02,
>IIRC.
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>>> {6:00pm} Dinner - Milanos (a DLV tradition). Overflow at Spotlight?
>>Yes, it is a DLV tradition. Let's get it on the calendar. Overflow at
>>Fatburger or something else in the area. I don't think Spotlight has
>>food. (Does Spotlight have food?)
>Good question, does any LV locals have an answer to this?
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>>>We would like to pencil in the Limo tour for Wed evening, after the
>>>Goodtimes Kareoke. That should get us all warmed up for a good tour.
>>I see one possible scheduling item here. Goodtimes karaoke does not
>>end until after midnight. I would suggest something at least a couple
>Karokee at Goodtimes really doesn't start until 10pm and lasts to 1am+.
>I'd hate to see Karokee (which is a DLV tradition, at least as far as
>Tina/Monique/Cat sees it) two tracked with the Limo Tour.
>Ya'll do what you want to do, but I will be doing Karokee again at
>Goodtimes on Wed nite. I hate to miss the limo tour 'cause of this, but
>if given a two track choice, I'll be doing Karokee.
>The other thing with respect to Karokee, is, and bear with me Sisters,
>is the "DLV Chouir", performing one if not two numbers on Wed nite @
>Goodtimes.
>IMHO, to get the better turnout for the limo tour, Thurs is better than
>Wed. That is based upon the last 2-3 past years and usually follows a
>show, etc.
>Comments, suggestions?
The more I think about it, the more I think the combination of the
show and the limo tour is a winner. If it ain't broke ...
However (comma), I'm not the one organizing it, it's really the call of
those who are.
Of the two, Karaoke and Limo Tour, I see the Limo Tour as the stronger,
and Karaoke as the low-cost alternative. That might actually work.
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>>>I am very interested in the High Tea. I went at Diva 2002 and 2003.
>>>It was suggested that we might have the tea at Mindy's house,and that
>>>is a very generous offer, but the fact is that the elegance of the
>>>hotel and the food and service is what makes the High Tea so special.
[deletia]
>Just a side thought, would anyone be interested in combining the High
>Tea with the SBS Social?
By SBS Social, do you mean the Garden Party?
>I see a potential problem in holding this on a Saturday early
>afternoon (as traditional High Tea's start around 3-4pm) with our
>'Big >Bang' for Saturday nite. Just a thought. Comments?
Well, I'm not everybody, but for the Garden Party I would very much
prefer hamburgers and hot dogs (and beer) over tea and crumpets,
whatever the heck they are, anyway. :)
Just my personal thoughts on the matter. :)
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Slut party:
Monique writes:
>>On one hand, DLV has always been based on reality and not fantasy, and
[cut-paste]
>>On the other hand, I don't think we need to constrain what we plan for
[snip]
>IMHO, I have a serious problem promoting a fetish nite as an organized
>event with the DLV name associated with such a potential venue.
I don't really have an issue with an activity where our people can dress
in something a bit more outrageous, whether it's leather or feather or
convent, as long the circumstances are appropriate for such outfits.
As I've said countless times, I have a feeling it would be one of our
best-attended and highest-rated activities.
I do see an issue, however, with the term "fetish", if used to title
such an activity.
I think that term has too much of an overtly sexual tone to it.
I've used the terms "slut party" and "pimp n ho" to describe this
to-be-planned activity, but those two terms also have sexual
connotations. I can't really think of a title that has no sexual
meaning but gets the point across.
>I once again remind all of us that DLV is a vacation, not a
>convention, yet the tradition and the reputation we have is, like
>Annie has stated, is based on reality and not fantasy.
>Offering one nite of allowing sisters to let their hair down and get
>down and dirty, for lack of a better phrase, isn't going to solve the
>dressing issues we've experienced in the past two years of DLV.
>IMO, I think offering such a venue will enhance, not diminish, the
>dressing issues.
The dressing issue, the way I see it, is not dressing in an unusual
or provocative manner when and where appropriate, but dressing
inapproprately for mainstream public.
If a slut party were to happen, it would be private, or at least in what
we're now calling a "safe venue", and not visible to the general public.
>If sisters that attend DLV want to do this privately, outside of a 'DLV
>Venue', I don't have a problem with that. I just don't wish to see an
>announced 'DLV Venue' be associated with a fetish/dress issue. Think
>about this sisters, it's kind of like a domino effect......once it's
>started, it's not going to stop until the last domino has dropped.
I really don't see a slippery-slope possibility here. We've established
the precedent of having such things as RHPS and the MFB on our schedule,
and nobody took them the wrong way.
Just like there is resistance to turning DLV into a convention, there
would be resistance to turning DLV into a fetish-oriented event.
>From firsthand experience, at my first Diva @ DLV'01, we went to the
>RHPS and had a great time there, yet we still kept our decorum of class
>and IIRC, most of the sisters were not outragously dressed.
>Please correct me if I'm wrong, but IMHO, I think we need to adhere to
>the standards that DLV represents.
I honestly don't see something like a well-planned costume party (for
lack of a better term) to be any more risque' than something like the
annual Groundhog Prom here or our department's "Pimp-N-Ho" theme for the
office Halloween party a couple years back.
I think our overall standard is that dress and behavior are to be
appropriate for time, place, and circumstance. IMAO, wearing an evening
gown to the mall (happened at Pinkfest) is just as much of a fashion
faux-paus as is wearing a micro-mini to a mainstream evening activity.
If I may digress, I think there's still some significant misunderstanding
of the scope of the dress/behavior issue. This issue mostly affects only
those who don't know how to dress or behave in mainstream public.
We still have not had a concrete proposal for such an activity, and if
nobody plans it, it will not happen.
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Secretary Night:
Kate writes:
>>It was my impression, please correct me if I am wrong, that
>>Secretaries Night was intended to be an alternative to the slut/fetish
>>party. Am I correct or mistaken on this?
>Yes you are wrong. It was revoked a while back. I was and still am
>very new at this and didn't know how many collective toes I was
>stepping on at the time I suggested it.
Ok, I stand corrected, however, I don't think there are any sore toes
over this. :)
>As I remember you advised me against sheduling Secretaries night out as
>an alternate to Fettish night and I agreed with you.
My suggestion was not to protect any toes or egos, I just didn't want to
see you put a lot of effort into something that would run against
something that would draw the vast majority of our people.
>There doesn't seem to be any support for sec's night anyway and it was
>only proposed as a fill in activity to give Sunday Tea a chance of
>survival.
High Tea will survive. It may not be on Sunday, and it may be in a house
or a hotel, but there's too much interest in it to not have it happen.
Please don't get discouraged if you suggest something and the group here
doesn't immediately start jumping up and down over it. Over the years, I
and the others have suggested countless things that have been poo-poo'ed
by the group here, and unfortunately we've had a couple activities that
got strong support not turn out very well.
The only way we're gonna find out if something works is to try it.
>Sorry again for the breach of etiquette. Won't happen again.
Again, there's no breach of etiquette. No apology needed.
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Art Tours:
(I'm redirecting this from the discussion list to the ORG list.)
Sarah writes:
>Oh My, it looks like the schedule is filling up quickly.
We are getting a good number of activities at least tentatively
scheduled. Still plenty of timeslots left, and most anything during
the day can be multi-tracked.
>I'd like to
>suggest one of two options for gallery tours. Most of them appear to
>close at 5:00, so there will be plenty of time to rest and get ready
>for any evening activity, regardless of what we do.
>First would be Thursday, an art gallary before lunch and Liberace after.
>The second option would be to split the visits to two days. I'd hate
>to double track against the Glamour Boutique and it appears there is an
>open slot on Friday after Lunch. With this kind of flexible schedule
>we could get fill a couple of slow times or double track against
>something that had strong but limited appeal.
>Any suggestions on either of those options?
I would suggest concentrating this activity in one timeslot, one day.
There's nothing that says you can't two-track against the GB Open House.
Those things typically will draw about half of our people.
It was mentioned before that Hidden Woman will be coming into LV that
week, so I'm sure they will have some kind of an afternoon thing going
as well. HW has taken Wednesday before, but they may opt for some other
day.
>Also, if there are any of you out there who have a strong desire to see
>one particular gallary or have particular knowledge about the Las Vegas
>"art scene", let me know. There seems to be everything from commercial
>gallaries to natural history museums to "high art" display space. It
>may be more than I can cover from a distance or on a short trip this
>fall.
I would suggest that you, as the organizer, make the decision on which
exhibits to visit, based on your findings and what you think would
appeal to a broad section of our group. If you're going to poll the
Teeming Millions for suggestions, you'll probably want to hold off
until we get closer to show time.
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Summary schedule of activities:
This schedule is preliminary and is subject to change
without notice.
Monday, May 3:
10:00am Trip to Rhyolite (Rhyolite)
1:00pm Lunch with or without Ginger (Sahara buffet)
5:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
6:00pm Milano's dinner (Milano's)
8:00pm Welcome Celebration (Flex or Spotlight)
Tuesday, May 4:
1:00pm Lunch with or without Ginger (Sahara buffet)
1:30pm Bowling (Bowling alley)
5:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Wednesday, May 5:
9:00am Air Tours (Henderson Executive Airport)
1:00pm Lunch with or without Ginger (Sahara buffet)
5:00pm Happy Hour (Hard Rock Cafe)
6:00pm Hard Rock Dinner (Hard Rock Cafe)
Ev Secretaries Night (Spotlight Lounge)
10:00pm Karaoke (Goodtimes)
Ev Limo Tour (TBD)
Thursday, May 6:
1:00pm Lunch with or without Ginger (Sahara buffet)
PM Glamour Boutique Open House (Glamour Boutique)
4:00pm High Tea (TBD)
5:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
Friday, May 7:
AM-PM Golf (Desert Rose)
1:00pm Lunch with or without Ginger (Sahara buffet)
5:00pm Happy Hour (Carluccio's)
6:00pm Carluccio's Dinner (Carluccio's Tivoli Gardens)
7:30pm Annual Mixer (Goodtimes)
Saturday, May 8:
11:00am SBS Garden Party (Mindy's residence)
5:00pm Happy Hour (TBD)
12:00m Rocky Horror Picture Show (Highly tentative)
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