From: Annie (annie@geekbabe.com)
Date: Wed Jun 25 2003 - 07:58:27 CDT
In this mailing:
Org List
DLV dates
Big Sis, High Tea, etc.
Tea, tipping, and 'tography
Ethnic theme activity
Big Sister Coordinator
Various comments
Theme, Church and High Tea
Another Pahrump opinion
Administrivia
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Org List:
This is the DLV 2004 Organizational Mailing List (dlvorg@geekbabe.com)
Replies to this message will be forwarded to the DLVORG list and not
the DLV-Announce or DLV-Discuss list.
Ongoing activity database of proposed and scheduled activities on line:
http://www.geekbabe.com/annie/org04arc/acts.html
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
DLV dates:
In about three weeks we'll have our call for votes for the dates of DLV
2004. The two timeframes we've discussed are:
A. Monday, May 3 thru Saturday, May 8, with a possible extension of one
day either way.
B. Monday, May 17 thru Saturday, May 22, with a possible extension of one
day either way.
We've had comments for and against both timeframes. If there's any
further comments and/or discussion about the dates, please get that in,
as we have only two list cycles until the vote will be taken.
A related issue is that of the Sunday extension. I don't see that it's
necessary to have this question answered by the time our dates are
announced as final (September 1), but it does need to be answered by the
time people actually start making travel plans, which is around the
holidays.
My concern about extending is that if we do so, we be absolutely certain
that we have enough volunteers to coordinate enough quality activities,
not only for that extra day, but for the entire DLV period.
(And no, I don't want to see those who have already volunteered to do
multiple things to volunteer to do more for the sake of extending.)
If everybody on this list (including you) would simply go on record for
coordinating or assisting with one nontrivial activity, we would have
far more activities than we do timeslots.
Last note on this item, High Tea fans will be happy to note (below) that
the Monday-Saturday timeframe may not lock this activity out.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Big Sis, High Tea, etc.:
Jennifer writes:
>I would not mind sharing this activity with Nora. I think two people
>can do this even better, especially when we are talking about having
>over a 100 people attending. I do make up and hair styling well, which
>seems to be one of the greatest concerns of nervous girls.
Thanks, Jennifer.
For those listening in, Nora and Jennifer have agreed to share this
duty. Please join me in thanking them.
>I used to live in Vegas and know of one or two hair (wig) stylists that
>I feel could help us out in this area.
Could you please take a look at our vendor list at:
http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/vendors/
and make an entry for them if they are not already listed.
. . . . .
>I would like to have the "High Tea" event. It's an activity that
>differs from the other themes during "Diva." A woman loves to be
>pampered and this event when done correctly, can heighten the feminine
>experience to one of its fullest. A "proper lady" enjoys this refinery
>and though I am not a "stick in mud" type person, I do love elegance
>and I would love the opportunity to experience this inner sanctum
>activity. Wow! That sounded thoughtful.
It looks like there will be an opportunity for the High Tea even if
we don't extend to Sunday. See Leah's note below.
>As far as being a volunteer for other activities... I'd love to help at
>registration, name tags or "High Tea" if an extra hand is needed.
>Please remember that being the BSC; my activity and its planning will
>come first! (You'd expect that huh?!) :)
Monique is the one who handles the check-in. If she's listening in and
needs an extra hand ...
. . . . .
>Kewl idea about the digital photo's. Why not? If a back drop is needed,
>I have a professional portable unit that may work perfectly.
>As far as a place; let's ask one of the major hotels that we will be
>staying at to promote their resort.
Are you volunteering to contact them and coordinate this? :)
>I am sure many a girl will want to wander through their hotel. This
>gives them more exposure to future Vegas visits from our sisters and
>possible business, such as a lunch or purchase of sundry items while in
>the hotel.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Tea, tipping, and 'tography:
Leah writes:
>I would have to check again but last time I did the High Tea at the
>Mirage was held daily. It was in that nice floral and waterfall area
>by the lounge when you first walked in the main entrance to the right.
If you don't mind checking this, I'm sure this would be appreciated, as
this would allow it to be placed most any afternoon on the schedule. We
do typically have a shortage of daytime activities, and there has been a
demand for more dress-up daytime things in the past.
. . . . .
>That photographer's name sounds familiar to me..... I may have come
>across her website somewhere. If it's her I do remember that she
>advertised for the transgendered community to have their photos done.
I don't think she has a web page. I asked her if she had any samples
on line and she said something to the effect that she would like to
have some at some time.
It's my impression that she is an amateur who wants to build up her
skills in this area.
>Whether it's her or not the only thing I can think of would be to have
>her set up at one of the Open houses. Granted most of the girls will
>be casual but they can carry a nice gown or outfit for the picture. I
>really don't think any of the GLBT places, especially Goodtimes, would
>have a problem with the pics in their place if we want to go that
>route. Goodtimes may even be better suited with the empty back area
>when we are there. In any event I think if we use her that we should
>mention that a tip would be nice given what happened at Sasha's last
>year where the girls either didn't know to tip the performers or just
>didn't want to.
The back room at Goodtimes might be an option for this. They don't
usually use this on Friday and I don't see them objecting to something
like this.
I don't know about the open houses. Those can be such a madhouse.
>I think we should also be aware that she will probably try and sell
>some photo packages. If this is the same photographer I recall her
>being a bit on the high side in price.......which is probably why El
>Cheapo here didn't save her website. <g>
I'm sure you're thinking of a different person. The Suzy who wants to
do this stated she was not a pro and did not have samples on line.
>As for Leona, I am sure that even if she decides not to re-open a full
>scale operation here that she will certainly be back again in a suite
>somewhere for Diva. She does this regularly at functions in other
>cities.
That's good. I guess we can assume she will have a suite at the Sahara
or comparable hotel. I'll get this on the proposed activity list.
Yes, to be nonpreferential, I'll also put a GB Open House on the list
too. :)
>Getting back to tipping..... I would like to propose this year that we
>make mention that tipping at drag shows is a Good Thing, especially
>when we take over the place like we did at Sasha's. If the performers
>get any upfront money at all I can't imagine it being much. Maybe
>another 'pass the glass' thing might work or we can say someone will be
>around to collect 2 or 3 bucks a head before the show starts.
We used to have a tipping section in the LFM until a couple years ago,
but that was sacrificed, along with various other things, to keep the
volume of it down. We could put it, or a rewritten version back in.
The original did not include anything on drag shows.
Maybe we need to put the unwritten rules into writing, since I'm very
sure quite a few of our newer people are unfamiliar with the etiquette
of the drag shows.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Ethnic theme activity:
Rosada writes:
>I like the idea of the ethnic theme. Can you just imagine all the
>beautiful outfits we'd be sharing with each other. What fun. I think,
>if done correctly, it could give DLV 04 a true international flavor for
>that night.
>Mark me down in the yeah column!
Ok, but which "yeah" column? :)
We have two of them.
First is the "yeah, I want it to happen" column, and second is the
"yeah, I volunteer to coordinate (or help with) column." (>>HINT<<) :)
:) :)
>Thanks Aiko for the suggestion. I can't wait to design (or shop for) my
>Aztec goddess outfit. LOL!
>From this and other comments, it looks like this idea does have some
support. I've added this to the activity database.
All it takes now is for one or more to adopt it and make it happen.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Big Sister Coordinator:
Nora Writes:
>Put me down as a Big Sister Coordinator. If you feel that there
>will be a need for more than one coordinator that's fine. If the
>responsibilities include checking on the effectiveness of the matches
>during the DLV and we do receive substantial requests than there may
>be a need for more than one coordinator.
Thanks again, Nora. For those listening in, both Jennifer and Nora will
be jointly handling the Big Sister program for DLV 2004.
>I do see one problem with multiple coordinators. If there is more than
>one coordinator than you will unfortunately assume the job of super
>coordinator having to assign big sisters and little sisters to each
>coordinator. With one coordinator all you have to do is to forward each
>request for big and little sisters and the coordinator with do all the
>rest.
Actually, what I'm planning to do is forward all Big Sister related
material to both of you, and let you decide how to divide up the job
and handle the various aspects of the program. :)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Various comments:
Jamie writes:
>I have been somewhat dissappointed with alot of the pictures. They are
>very dark and out of focus. This is probably due to the lack of
>sufficient flash power. Someone with better equipment, at least for the
>large group shots, would be nice to have. I know that a hi-quality
>digital camera is on the expensive side, but if a person already has
>one, with a hi-power flash, all that would be needed is a laptop to
>download into. A CD burner wold make it easier do distribute pics.
All of the DLV photos are amateur shots, taken with widely varying
equipment, lighting, skill, and degree of sobriety. :)
Usually, however, we've assembled a collection of photos that most
people are happy with.
We've also had some difficulty in the later years getting people
assembled, posed, and sitting/standing still for the larger group shots.
>I agree that finding a place to set up a backdrop and lighting would be
>difficult, unless someone was willing to share their Suite. It would
>get much more complicated if printing was desired.
Leah has some ideas on this above (or below) which may work.
. . . . .
>The Big Sister program could probably make good use of two dedicated
>organizers.
Yes, see notes above (or below) on this.
. . . . .
>Theme nights are always fun. I thought we already had one, Red shoe
>night.
We did. Red Shoe Night in 2003 and Blonde Hair Night in 2002.
>Some themes are better that others. I always have a problem with a 50s
>theme. I have no poodle skirts. What does a "European American" wear as
>a theme outfit? {;~))
Uh, you could go for the Eurotrash look. :) :) :) {ducking and running}
Seriously, I think the intent was to have this be the primary theme of a
social get-together, as opposed to just an optional add-on to something
else.
>We could almost call "Slut night" a theme. There are lots of options.
Oh yes, definitely a theme activity. :) I think the people who have
the ethnic theme night in mind want it to be separate from the Trash
N Flash party, and not concurrent with it on the schedule.
>I seems to me that there were abot 15 at the Tea. Not all of them were
>in the pics I saw. Personally, I enjoyed the Tea and would like to do
>it again.
It looks like this may be possible on a day other than Sunday, according
to Leah's note in this mailing.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Theme, Church and High Tea
Tootsye writes:
>I have enjoyed very much the theme days or nights the last two years.
>In 02, was a blonde for a day, and in 03, I wore the red shoes. It
>seemed that not much was made of the themes on their days!
>Maybe a little more recognition of those that participated. Like all
>the blondes stand up/or line up or something. Also the same for the red
>shoe girls, or what ever the theme.
I thought we did take some photos of all the blondes that evening, but
for some strange reason I can't think of anything that happened that
night. :)
>I am all for any type of theme in which most of us can participate. I
>loved the oriental dress that Aiko was wearing but I think it would
>have been a little expensive for me!
>As for High Tea, it is one of my favorites and I would really hate to
>see it taken off the menu! I love Diane and Mindy and really appreciate
>their offering to have High Tea in their home, but the ambiance of the
>Four Seansons or some other high class restaurant is what really makes
>it stand out! The smaller attendance in 03 may have been a result of
>the uncertenty of the schedulling.
It looks like this one is safe. See Leah's note, since it tells about
one that's ongoing each day.
>This event satisfys my desire to dress a little more elegantly than is
>usually possible for mall crawls or anyother daytime activity where one
>wants to blend! The elegance of the Four Seasons allows for a more
>elegant afternoon dress and the formality of the service is very
>special giving one a feeling of really being pampered as a high class
>lady should be! Fine formal service is rapidly becoming a lost art in
>America.
>I think that similar testimonies can be had from Jamie, Jeanine,
>Monique and others that have attended the last two years!
>The MCC church is a wonderful congregation and will welcome any
>attendees of Diva. The dress there is very informal with lots of girls
>in jeans, but the service is very real and appropriate.
MCC (or other services) could be an option for those coming early or
staying late, even if they are not part of the "official" (if there
is such a thing) DLV schedule.
>To me, the final Sundays of Diva 02 and 03 have been sort of my
>favorite. The intensity had diminished and attendance at church, then
>High Tea and the the more relaxed final wrap up at Flex has been most
>enjoyable!
>To me it rounds out the week beautifully! The first day or two of the
>week, more and more girls arrive and everyone is getting to know one
>another or renewing old friendships. The middle of the week the
>activities are very intense, with lots of things going on, and that
>final Sunday, is a time for relaxed savoring of the goodness of it all!
>To me the time of Monday through Sunday is just right!
>There are so many wonderful people to meet and visit with and some many
>interesting things to do with them, that it just can't be shorter!
Not to sound like a stuck CD, but again, I'm not opposed to extending,
I just want to be sure we have an adequate slate of activities without
overloading our volunteers.
We do need to draw the line somewhere, and I do suggest that we don't
consider any more of an extension than one day for 2004, and that being
if and only if we have the volunteer commitment to plan and implement
activities.
There seem to be two different philosophies of ending DLV. One is the
big bang, ending on an uptick on Saturday night, and the other is as
you say, ending with a gentle wind-down on Sunday.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Another Pahrump opinion:
Anya writes:
>>>Second as far as stopping in Pahrump, I'd be a little wary ...
>>>I've lived here for 6 years now and I don't consider this town as TG
>>>friendly, I'd sure hate to see anybody have any problems here, ...
>>In light of that, it may be better not to stop for a meal ...
>I do not foresee stopping in Pahrump to be problematic. I know several
>TG persons who lived in Pahrump openly and to my knowledge had no
>problems. There are several good places to eat in Pahrump. The Pahrump
>Nugget is very nice inside.
>I wouldn't say that Pahrump is a "redneck good old boy town". Most of
>the population growth is recent, retirees are moving there in droves.
Well, my experience in Pahrump is limited. I've had maybe 15 minutes
exposure to it total. I don't know, and we've had two quite contrasting
opinions here.
>The best way is to dress and conduct oneself according to the
>situation, and there should be no problems.
Whether or not we stop in Pahrump, this is a very good point to
remember.
If people want to go mainstream, that means mainstream dress and
mainstream behavior ... what is usual and customary for other women of
the same age, size, and height, and ladylike comportment and deportment.
>I am sure the Pahrump Nugget or Terribles would be more than happy to
>serve us.
What might be a good idea for this one is to hold off on any decision
on where to eat until trip time, and give the people the choice in
real time, whether to grab breakfast before leaving Las Vegas or
to stop in Pahrump on the way.
>I can't foresee any problems at the Walmart either.
Yeah, but that's an awful long way to drive to go to Walmart. :) :)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Administrivia:
This is the Diva Las Vegas 2004 organizational list.
One address for all items regarding this list, additions, removals,
changes, submissions, questions, etc.:
dlvorg@geekbabe.com <--- NOTE: all lower case
Please do not send binary attachments (photos, etc.) directly to the
list, as the list processor will not properly handle them. If you want
to send photos and the like, mail to: annie@annie.net
Archives of this list appear on the web at:
http://www.geekbabe.com/annie/org04arc/
To unsubscribe: Simply reply to this message with the word UNSUBSCRIBE
in either the Subject: field or the first line of an OTHERWISE BLANK
message body. The word "unsubscribe" (case is insignificant) should be
the only item in the subject field or the first line of the message,
justified to the left.
To send material to this list: Send submission as regular e-mail to
the address: dlvorg@geekbabe.com
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Wed Jul 02 2003 - 08:06:08 CDT