From: Annie (annie@geekbabe.com)
Date: Tue Mar 18 2003 - 14:00:07 CST
In this mailing:
Org List
This mailing
Yet another laundry list
Sasha's service
Cat's comments
Restaurants
My personal HRC/HRH comments
Credit where credit is due
HRConfusion maybe
HRCafe observation and concern
Summary schedule of activities
Administrivia
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This mailing:
Michelle J: If you can read this, your e-mail is bouncing. If anybody is
in contact with her, please tell her so, as if she does not know
already. :)
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Gina: Are you still with us?
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I think we can safely say that from now until DLV the DLVORG list will
go out as needed. There are just too many things going on for it to be
practical to hold it for a weekly or biweekly mailing.
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Latest numbers:
Registrations: 108 SO's: 23 Total: 131
Reconfirmed: 83 SO's: 19: Total: 102
First notice pending: 2
First notice outstanding: 5
Second notice outstanding: 18
Cancellations: 2
Jena: I should have an initial list of names for tags around the end of
next week. You can probably expect two smaller lists for those who
register/reconfirm between then and DLV.
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Since we've received nothing that in any way shows that Sasha's will be
around next month (I'm assuming that the Sasha fans would have spoken by
now if there was something to speak of), I think we need to look at
Ginger's proposal seriously, as well as those Cat has made and will make
over the next several days.
If anybody wants to throw a suggestion in the hat, please do so.
Let's say that if we do not have a consensus on what to do by next
Wednesday, the 26th, we call for votes on the issue.
Meanwhile, on other business ...
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Yet another laundry list:
First and foremost, if any of you are aware of anything that's in an
unknown state, or any loose ends hanging, or anything undone or
undecided, please send it in so we can include it.
Otherwise ...
1. There was a discussion of whether our T* taxi driver was still
around, but I haven't heard a conclusion.
+Taryn, of Ace Cab Company, is a member of our community. Phone number
+is 702-736-8444. Her cab number is 2501. Her current schedule is 6 am
+to 4 pm and she is off of Sunday and Wednesday.
Could somebody local please check to see if this information is current?
Otherwise we should kill it from the LFM.
2. We said the packages shipped to the two boutiques could be picked
up during normal business hours. Could somebody please confirm the
current business hours and days of the two shops? I would hate to
see somebody arrive and attempt to pick up on a closed day and have
to spend that day in boymode. :)
3. Discounts and promotions. I'm making this list up now. Am I correct
that both boutiques will be offering a discount to DLV people?
Also, Mindy, is the Dress Barn discount good this year as well?
Any others?
4. Tina, any changes you want to make on the drinking tips at
http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/fdrinking.html
5. Mindy. Desert Rose again? What time should be on the schedule?
6. Mindy, location, time, and how much $$$ for the High Tea?
7. Leah, have you visited with Vegas Girl Wigs yet? Anything interesting
going on there WRT VGW and DLV?
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Sasha's service:
Leah writes:
>About the service and such at Sasha's...... I have to agree there is a
>problem with the bartender currently working there.
>This guy was at Flex, not surprising he had to move on and wound up at
>Sasha's. I will not go on and on about him but I have had a few
>problems with him at both places in the past. He is only one person
>however. Sasha IMO, could use a little more gladhanding skills perhaps
>but she is busy getting ready for the shows also. The wait staff is
>very amiable and one gal in particular, Zena, just might invite you
>over to her house for coffee after your meal....she is that friendly.
>Annie, this guy wasn't there last DLV btw.
I wonder if he was over at Flex then, because I seem to recall some
people complaining about non-service over there one time.
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Cat's comments:
>I had never been to the HRC here, so Sunday I went with two others who
>were in male mode. The cafe is separate from the Casino/Hotel. We had
>lunch at the cafe and it was about a 20 minute wait. It is set up in a
>circular fashion with the bar in the middle. There is not much room at
>the bar.
>The food was good and the portions quite large. Smoking section is on
>one side and non-smoking on the other.
>I got a couple of looks from the bartender and one group at the bar, a
>few glances from a table of about 12. There were no comments or any
>remarks made, although I know the group at the bar were talking amongst
>themselves, so I just smiled at them and they smiled back. The service
>was fair, the waitress was great.
>After lunch we walked over to the casino and toured the place. Not a
>single glance. There is a nice spacey lounge and a couple of smaller
>ones. There is also a restaurant that we did not try called the "Pink
>Taco". Not sure what type food it has.
Cali-Mex. I'm sure the double-meaning of the name was quite intentional.
>My suggestion would be that the HH/Dinner be at the casino, not the
>cafe. We all felt like the cafe was more of a "push the diners through
>and get them out" atmosphere.
>Hope this helps on the HRC.
>As far as the other options I might suggest, I am visiting two of the
>places tonight. I will let you know if they think handling 50 would be
>a problem or not. The main negative I see is that the entrees start
>around $20 and go up.
>The total bill for anyone who had dinner and drinks with tip will be
>between $40-$50. It doesn't seem to me that is the range people are
>looking for. One is on the strip across from the Boardwalk and one is
>out West Shara near Decatur.
Thanks, Cat. Please let us know what you find out. IMAO, $20+ for entree
and sides, $40+ including drink and tip, is not bad. As always, this and
everything will be optional, so if there's a demand for something
cheaper, Tina can borrow the van and take another group of our people
over to Fatburger. :)
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Restaurants:
Cat writes:
>You already have my take on the HRC - I prefer the casino area more
>than the cafe. I also think this is a more viable option than other
>restaurants, except for maybe a buffet of sorts.
>Two of the restaurants I would endorse are not able to handle 50 at a
>time.
>Paymon's Mediterranean is great and the Habooka lounge is quite unique.
>The food is really good and we have had a couple of Southern Belle
>Society socials begin there. Anything over groups of 8 would be a
>problem on seating. They are very friendly and I highly recommend them.
>Nick's on the Strip is directly across from the Boardwalk in a strip
>center. It is wonderful Italian food, good service, entertainment on
>the weekends, has an outside balcony and has a great variety of foods.
>The portions are HUGH, a little pricey but well worth it. Inside dining
>atmosphere is elegant and comfortable. This rates as number 2 or 3 on
>my list of favorite places to eat here. Again seating for groups is
>somewhat limited. One should look at spending $40+ for dinner and a
>couple of drinks, but you will probably take some food home. Regulars
>can become members of Nick's VIP club which gets 15% off. A nice
>lounge area and dance floor.
>I am saving my favorite place until I can talk with the owners, either
>tonight or Wednesday. I think they can handle the number, however, it
>is a very upscale restaurant and the prices match. It might be
>something that would be offered as an alternative dinner one night for
>those that don't mind paying. I will let you know after I talk to Tony.
Thanks, Cat. Please let us know what you find out on your other place
as soon as you can.
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My personal HRC/HRH comments:
I've been to the Hard Rock Casino many times to play, both modes at
times. I liked it better when they had (more) full-pay VP, but it's
still fun and a great place to people-watch. I've eaten in Mr Lucky's
coffee shop, both modes, but never in the other restaurants there. I
would prefer the music to be equalized to have a bit more sock, but I
do understand why they keep it midrangey.
I've been to the Hard Rock Cafe in Las vegas for a drink once. I've
eaten in other HRC's at times. Food is good, portions are huge, and each
one has interesting paraphernalia. IMAO, they are just a wee bit pushy
on appetizers and desserts. The BBQ pork sandwich will, for example,
feed two, so for me, anyway, those two are not required. :) However,
the food is consistently good.
Margeth and I went to the HRCafe briefly during DLV 1997. Margeth at
the time ran a music store, so she wanted to see the various items at
both the HRCafe and the HRCasino. We stopped in the HRCafe, sat down at
the bar, had maybe 1-2 drinks, and just shot the sh^H^Hbull. I don't
remember getting as much as a sideways glance.
After the HRCafe, we walked over to the HRCasino, looked at the various
esoterica, and I remember shopping in the gift shop. I don't remember
even a funny look.
The only negative time I've had at the HRCasino is when a group of us
went there to Mr Lucky's very late one nite during DLV 1999. We had been
at the various bars in the Triangle district, and we were hungry. The
service was slow and inattentive, but I don't really remember the food
as being notably good or bad. I've been to Mr Lucky's at other times and
it's always been good food and service. I have a feeling that anybody in
there at that one time would have received equal and nondiscriminatory
cruddy service. I don't remember any dirty looks or anything that time,
but we had been clubbing and there were some revealing outfits, so I'm
sure some of the group did attract attention.
In late 2001 when I was in LV on business, some of the local people told
me that HRCasino had taken a quite anti-t* stance. I went there the next
afternoon and from my observation it was business as usual. I really have
not heard much at all since then, regarding the HRCasino and their
attitude.
Anyway, as I read the comments from Cat, Monique, and the rest, my hunch
is that the HRCafe would be a better choice than the HRCasino (where in
there would we dine?) for our group. I know they are both owned by the
same parent company, but I was told (maybe by one of our people) that
the HRCafe in LV and the HRCasino are managed separately, so their sales
office(s) may not be able to offer both, at least the same people may
not be able to.
The HRCafe is mainstream enough so our out-and-about people will not get
claustrophobia, and it should be secluded enough for the newly-out. They
offer a choice (choice is a Good Thing<tm>) and it does not reek of yet
another Rubber Chicken Banquet. (Meatloaf again?????)
Cat, specifically where in the HRCasino were you thinking for our group?
Pink Taco? Lucky's? Mortoni's?
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Credit where credit is due:
In the LFM, I'm planning to add a section giving credit for those who
have organized our nontrivial activities. I'm sure there is at least
one oversight or omission, and please trust me, I'm not intentionally
leaving anybody out. I want to prevent just that.
Please take a look at these. If there's anything missing or incorrect,
please let me know.
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Side trip to A-le-Inn: Aiko
Primm Valley Mall shopping: Kate
(Wednesday evening items TBD)
Red Shoe Night: Tina
Air Tours: Denise, Gina, Tony
Jubilee arrangements: Aiko
Club Girl Talk: Amanda Michelle
Limo Tour: Monique
Golf arrangements: Mindy, Billie Lee
Brunch with or without Tina: Tina
SO's Get-together: Diane
Friday evening Dinner: Leah
Dance Night: Tina
SBS Garden Party: Mindy, Monique
Showgirls Of Magic arrangements: Annie
English High Tea: Mindy
Mt Charlston Trip: Annie
Check-in: Monique, Tootsye, Jena
Name badges: Jena
Limo refreshments: Cindy, LeeAnna
Registration-mailings: Annie
Photography coordination: Tina
Restaurant surveys: Cat
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HRConfusion maybe:
Densie writes:
>>>We went there [Hard Rock] one year and I didn't like the place at all.
>>Oh really? What in particular did you not like?
>Everything from the guitar sign, to the atmosphere, to our friends who
>stiffed us on the check. I'm not interested in going back.
Ok, you're talking about the same time I was above, at Mr Lucky's. I
agree that the service that time sucked.
Actually, to say it sucked was to compliment it.
I've been there since and received good service.
I am, however, suggesting the HRCafe and not the HRCasino for this for
various reasons.
Yes, shorting your sisters (and brothers) on a shared check is majorly
uncool.
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HRCafe observation and concern:
Yvonne writes:
>I have one observation, and one concern:
>The concern:
>I have a slight fear of using HRC, for its very close location to the
>Paradise Club, a gentleman's club, which is across the street.
>There are only a few times I've been to HRC, all in boymode, at night,
>where I see bunches of guys drink and/or dinner at HRC and then walk
>over for a nights fun at the Paradise Club. Some were normal, and leave
>others alone, and I've also seen some (looked military or college
>types) that are type that are quite vocal, macho, wanting ggs to look
>at.
>Could or would this be a bad situation and source of confrontation if a
>we were to use HRC, considering the size of the group going to this
>venue. ...
I haven't been to HRCafe lately or in the evening, so I have not
observed this, but I'm sure it's a similar situation to that which we
encountered in 2000 when our group passed by a group of horny males on
line for a T&A show at the Riviera.
I'm sure HRCafe is not going to let their paying customers get hassled
by others.
>Or am I just being silly and just going off the deep end about this...
I think it's a valid concern.
>for HM (I think I'm right in saying this) is across on the other side?
I would guess that the avowedly-het males probably don't frequent HM's
prior to the strip club. :)
I don't think HRCafe will risk an incident. I'm sure that if any people
present get out of line, they will take care of it.
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>The observation:
>I remember on the Discovery Channel, around Halloween last year, had a
>series where one of them had HRC Vegas, as the venue for a sponsered
>Halloween Concert with a Punk Rock group I think was called 'Make-Up',
>based in NYNY.
>Several members of the group and band from NY were either CD or TS, or
>dressed that way as part of the bands appearence.
>There was a guest list to get some in early, but similar to the
>'Metamorphosis' or "Fetish and Fantasy Ball' concept, goers needed to
>be in 'costume'. Those not on the guest list had to be let in, after
>being looked over and judged to be sure the 'costume' wasn't too
>'average' or 'normal' everyday wear.
Yes, I remember the dress code for the MFB said that people in street
clothes would be turned away. Minimum dress for that was tux/gown with
costumes being preferred. Hey (you who are local) did that thing ever
get off the ground?
>When they showed the inside of HRC, many looked as though they were TG,
>TS, CD, etc. It looked like a wild party.
Yes and yes I'm sure. :)
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Summary schedule of activities:
This schedule is still under development and is subject to change
without notice.
Monday, April 21:
10:00am Side trip, A-le-Inn and Area 51 (Area 51)
1:00pm Brunch with Tina (Sahara buffet)
Tuesday, April 22:
1:00pm Brunch with Tina (Sahara buffet)
5:00pm Happy Hour (Hamburger Mary's)
6:00pm Pre-DLV dinner (Hamburger Mary's)
8:00pm Welcome celebration (Flex)
11:00pm Dancing (SRO)
Wednesday, April 23:
11:00am Primm Valley Mall shopping (Primm Valley)
1:00pm Brunch with Tina (Sahara buffet)
1-4pm Hidden Woman Open House (HW)
1:30pm Comportment workshop (Hidden Woman)
2:30pm Wig styling workshop (Hidden Woman)
Ev Red Shoe Night (All)
5:30pm Happy Hour (TBD)
6:30pm Dinner, possible show (TBD)
10:30pm Karaoke (Goodtimes)
Thursday, April 24:
9:00am Air tours (Henderson Airport)
12:00n Buffet lunch (Bellagio)
1:00pm Brunch without Tina (Sahara buffet)
1-4pm Glamour Boutique Open House (Glamour Boutique)
2:00pm Passing Seminar (Glamour Boutique)
6:00pm Happy Hour (Hamburger Mary's)
7:00pm Dinner (Hamburger Mary's)
7:30pm Jubilee (Bally's)
9:00pm Club Girl Talk (Hamburger Mary's)
9:30pm Limo Tour (Bally's)
Friday, April 25:
9:00am Golf (Golf course)
9:00am Air tours (Henderson Airport)
1:00pm Brunch with or without Tina (Sahara buffet)
4:00pm SO's Get-together (Somewhere on E Trop)
5:00pm Happy Hour (Carluccio's)
6:00pm Dinner (Carluccio's)
7:30pm Annual Mixer (Goodtimes)
11:00pm Dance Night (Gipsy)
Saturday, April 26:
11-3 SBS Garden Party (Mindy's)
7:00pm Happy Hour (San Remo)
8:00pm Buffet dinner (San Remo)
10:30pm Showgirls Of Magic (San Remo)
Sunday, April 27:
2:00pm Side trip (Mt Charleston)
2:30pm High Tea (Bellagio ?)
5:30pm Buffet Dinner (Palace Station)
8:00pm Farewell celebration (Flex)
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