Subject: dlvorg Shows and things ...
From: Annie (annie)
Date: Sun Nov 18 2001 - 00:42:14 CST
In this mailing:
This mailing
Shows and stuff
Saturday show
Mt Chas, etc.
Glamour Boutique
Address confusion
Sheesh
Summary Schedule of Activities
Tentative DLV 2001 schedule
Administrivia
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This mailing:
We've got some good conversation started regarding the big show on the
big night. Let's keep that up, gang. :)
I've taken the liberty of adding a couple items to the schedule, just
to get them on the slate. First is the Glamour Boutique Open House which
I discussed with John and Anthony last month. Let's tentatively put this
on Thursday afternoon with the option to move it to Friday or Wednesday
if we need to. We probably want to avoid Friday, since those golfing
would miss it, and Thursday would give them a larger group than would
Wednesday.
We still need something for Wednesday afternoon. Suggestions? This may
be a good time for air tours, skydiving, rock climbing, computer
shopping, touch football, etc.
I'm also scheduling a group buffet dinner for Sunday evening at the Palace
Station, following the side trip, before the Farewell thing. This is
really a low-maintenance item.
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Shows and stuff:
Tina writes:
>>However, I have one major concern here, regarding one major un-done
>>item on the schedule. That is the Saturday evening show. We've had
[snip]
>Well, I organized a show night for the last 2 years (Splash in 2000 and
>Folies Bergere in 2001) and I wouldn't mind doing it again, ...
Personally, I don't think you should do it. You've had your turn, twice,
and, imao, it's time for somebody who hasn't done it yet to do it.
>... except that there were so many complaints about the pre-payment by
>check requirements and the deadlines necessary to accomplish that,
>coupled with complaints about how expensive show tickets are.
And I don't have any easy answers to the logistics. I think you did a
very good job, actually.
And, please don't get the wrong idea from those who complained, your
efforts are truly appreciated. :)
>So, I want to give someone else a chance to do it to see if they have a
>better approach. I'll sit on the sideline until February (about 90 days
I would say that if nobody steps forward by February, it shows that the
priority for such a show is not as high as we (you and I) think, and that
we then need to plan some kind of alternate activity for Saturday.
>>A reasonably accurate list of shows of various types appears in the Neon
[clip]
>The link that actually worked for me is http://www.lvrj.com/lvrj_home/neon/
Thanks, Tina. I kinda did that one on the fly. {blush}
>>1. Legacy Las Vegas variety shows, you know, the ones with showgirls,
>>animals, showgirls, dancers, showgirls, magicians, showgirls, guest
[munch]
>Glitz, glamour, sequins, and some sex... all the things DLV is all
>about. These types of shows are my personal favorites.
I like these too. As I think I've said many times before, Sunday evening
was my favorite time last DLV.
Sex? <vbfg> :)
>Re Skintight, there is a brand new review of two sex-heavy shows (Storm
>and Skintight) at
>http://www.lvrj.com/lvrj_home/2001/Nov-09-Fri-2001/weekly/17384171.html
>I will try to monitor the status of Skintight between now and February.
>I liked the description of Storm that indicated they were using a live
>band onstage (or right at the edge). I love the live music aspect,
>which has been disappearing for years from many LV shows.
>It was interesting to note that they had both male and female strippers
>in Skintight and were trying to appeal to both men and women. I
>personally love to see Crazy Girls while in boymode. It's a long-time
>favorite of mind (definitely a show in the silly sex category), but the
>predominantly male audience has kept me from going in girl-mode. Just
>not interested in the hassle. (It is also my memory that the catcalls
>on the way to Frank's show in 2000 came from the crowd lined up at the
>Riviera for Craxy Girls.)
I have yet to see Crazy Girls, but yes, I believe you are correct in
who was doing the cat-calling. I didn't see any of it, though.
>That is why more mainstream glamour shows like Splash and Folies can be
>so much more comfortable to attend. Although the audience is older, my
>sense has always been that it is about 60% female and 40% male. We've
>never had a negative incident at these shows.
>Of all the shows, the one that absoluely looks most interesting to me
>is La Femme. Here is a summary:
+'LA FEMME'
+(B+) Las Vegas finally imported this arty, influential nudie show from
+the famous Crazy Horse cabaret in Paris, after years of knockoffs and
+lesser topless revues on the Strip. As such, you have to experience the
+subtlety, wit, creative lighting and distinctly European flair to
+appreciate the distinctions. The devil is in the details, and this is a
+fun place to sell your soul. "La Femme" will be presented at 8 and
+10:30 p.m. Wednesdays through Mondays in the La Femme Theatre at the
+MGM Grand. $49, guests must be 21 or older. 3799 Las Vegas Blvd.
+South. 891-7777.
>Are DLV girls up for something a little edgy? Comments?
Yes, I would, certainly, and I'm sure others would as well. $49 is really
quite reasonable for a LV production show of that type. I think La Cage
is $30-ish for the good seats.
I just pulled up the page you referred to for Storm and Skintight.
(That Vanna Lace is a Real Doll<tm>, eh? :)
Out of the three you mentioned, I think I would rather see La Femme.
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>>>Ripple?!? Before you were drinking Galliano!
>>Actually, for once I'm gonna have to admit something you said was
[cut-paste]
>>very short time with no food. I was *very* sick the next morning.
>Stay away from Bacardi 151. It's rocket fuel. I could barely stand up
>the next day.
Oh, so that's why you didn't have time to get ready for the show, huh?
{ducking and running} :)
>>I hope your right, Annie. But keep in mind, there's only so many
>>wigs sold each week, and with two shops, that's half the wigs and
[whack]
>Don't forget Vegas Showgirl Wigs. I have always thought they have
>better personal service than Serge's (although slightly less selection)
I will agree that Vegas Girl has a great service, and actually a very
good selection. I've never been to Serge, but most of our people who
have been rate them highly.
>and they (Vegas Girl) are very good about cleaning and styling
>overnight, while Serge's always claims to need at tleast 3 days.
Yes, they are always prompt, and they do a very good job too. For wigs,
I would definitely send people to Vegas Girl before any of the t*
specialty shops. GB (and HW) just could not afford to devote the shelf
space to such a selection, let alone having people on staff full time
for styling and such.
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Saturday show:
[snip]
>>We probably don't want a FI type show for Saturday, since we're doing
>>Frank Marino on Thursday and since we did a (kinda) FI show on
[clip]
>Annie, I hope you understand that I can't commit myself to volunteer
>... However,
>if I may make a suggestion: Do you have to have Frank Marino on Thurs-
>day and the bigger show on Saturday?
I don't think we're married to having the FI show on Thursday and the
legacy/artsy/whatever show on Saturday, no. It was just planned that
way on the proposed schedules.
Comments?
>You know already that it's
>easy to get tickets for Frank Marino, you just walk up to the booth
>and buy a ticket. No sending off money in advance. With the bigger
>shows, you've got to trust someone with your credit card or pay
>by check/mo in advance.
They *want* you to book and buy together, but history has shown that
yes, our people can buy tickets separately and sit with the group *IFF*
they are present, meaning ON TIME when the group joins the line waiting
to be seated.
>Then you could have the bigger, and harder to reserve show on
>Thursday where you won't have so many people running the obsticle
>course for tickets.
>Now I know you're leaning toward Blue Man for the big show, I'm
>sure you know it's a hassle getting tickets for and the won't let
>you sit with each other unless you buy tickets together. They even
>made us show ID when we picked up tickets, something I'm sure the
>new girls wouldn't go for at all.
If anything I'm leaning toward preferring something like La Femme. I did
make some comments, somewhat in jest, both in Las Vegas and Chicago last
week concerning Blue Man Group, but I hopefully will not have to go
through with my threat. :)
Only concern that I have with doing La Cage on Saturday is that most of
our people have seen it, at least once. I've seen it four times, and
would not really mind seeing it again, but not everybody wants to make
it into a once a year thing.
Comments?
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Mt Chas, etc.:
Denise writes:
>>>Can't offer much help on Mt. Charleston.....never been there. That's
[cut-paste]
>>Thanks. I've never been up there. Sounds like there is not really that
>>much to do.
>Umm...is there skiing up there? I can see some of the group wanting to
>try out their new bunny suits. Mine would have to have some extra
>padding in the booty and around the elbows, because I haven't skiied
>since the last time I broke my neck, but I would give it a shot again.
>I don't know why I keep proposing action adventures instead of shopping
>trips and shows...maybe it helps limit my drinking to three or four an
>hour. I guess, for a lot of people, just going out in public dressed
>up is an adventure in itself.
Well, seriously, things like that are what make DLV different from the
mainline t* conventions. Classic example of "out of the box" thinking,
to use the cliche du jour. History has shown us that yes, our people do
like things other than talent shows and rubber chicken banquets.
>>>One other thing to consider is they had two cases of beubonic plague
>>>there in the last year...
>Hmm...it sounds like the food is an adventure too.
>>Ok, thanks. I'm thinking of something close and quick as something that
>>will work for Sunday afternoon. I know we've had proposals for a few
>>hardcore outdoorsy things, but those have never had people jumping up
>>and down and waving their hands and yellling "ooo oooh". :)
>Tell us about it, Janet.
I was feeling done in, couldn't win ...
{you mean she's a ... uh-huh}
>I haven't tried the buffets at C**2 (what the hell does that stand for,
>anyway?) or Westward Ho.
It's geekbabe speak for Circus Circus. Comes from the FORTRAN notation
for exponentiation, which is **. Means Circus squared. :) You see that
on the newsfroups, sometimes it appears as C^2 for the BASIC people.
For some reason, NY**2 never caught on.
>I thought the one at IP is pretty disgusting, but some people liked it.
As far as buffets, the grossest one with the worst selection I've seen
has to be Westward Ho(le). The thing I remember about C**2 buffet was
mediocre food, but tons of kids running all over doing such things as
putting hot fudge on meatloaf and spilling it on the floor.
At the IP, I don't think the smaller buffet (in the coffee shop) is too
bad, but I've been warned to stay away from the larger one.
>My favorite this year was the Sahara Sunday Champagne Brunch, but I
>think it was mostly the champagne that I enjoyed.
Sahara has to be one of the best considering both price and quality.
It's cheap, usually good, and the line is most often tolerable.
As far as the Champagne Brunch thing, lotsa places do it, and I think
it's a ploy to jack up the prices for the touristas who are about to
depart for El-Lay. On Sunday morning ... more like noon when I actually
get up ... the *last* thing I want is champagne (well, maybe next to
last). I seldom have any, even though I do pay the couple extra bucks.
Oh well, I suppose it's a good anesthetic for those who walked too much
the day before. <semi grin>
>>>Hmm...transient...a Freudian slip, perhaps? Did I say "slip"?
>
>>Hey, *I'm* not the one who keeps bring this up! :)
>Actually, Lester keeps bringing it up. I get daily emails from him
>wanting to know if you're still planning to there next year, and if
>you'll be wearing glasses. I think I'm going to ask him to sign up on
>the mailing list so he'll quit bugging me.
Maybe he can come as Lesley then. :)
Oh yes, I'll be wearing my glasses ALL the time.
>>Actually, for once I'm gonna have to admit something you said was
>>correct. :) Years ago I was helping console a FOAF after a recent
>Just to keep you up to date, Lester tells me that his friend is doing OK.
Uh, what friend?
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Glamour Boutique:
Yvonne writes:
>>I hope I'm right too, but only time will tell. I really think the t*
>>market in Las Vegas is a gusher just waiting to be tapped.
>I just recently went to LV for a 5 night stay. I was able to go to
>Glamour Boutique on one night with Debbie Sage. At first it was
>slightly hard to find, exactly as what was stated in a earlier
>newsletter. It is in a office building, where one can pass by it
>very easily.
>For me, I dont buy anything off the web, but I do look at what is
>available (and the prices), and I haven't found a store back home that
>sells these items. Going to the GB gave me the first chance to see and
>touch (as in looking at the sizes, and shapes) many the items I only
>saw photos of on the web. Its very different when I see the item in
>person, than seeing it only on photos. The staff was quite friendly,
>very understanding, knowledgeable, and helpful in finding (and
>advising) on items I wanted, or needed. They had several office rooms
>filled with different items, and it was worth the look to each room.
>I bought alot of stuff (won't get into details) that would enhance what
>I have already.
>For a beginner CD, its a very good place to go to get started ... as in
>... as a place to be able to get most of the basic items (some hard to
>find items) to get started, sizing, and also important - help in putting
>(or learning how to) everything together - in a comfortable, private
>environment. I wish I had a store like this to go to when I first
>started.
>I found the prices to be reasonable. The prices are also stated on the
>web, so one knows how much the item costs before one gets there.
>I will definitely be going back there on the next visit to LV. They
>also had a few very interesting 'before and after' photos of
>individuals on the wall.
>The staff told me that they didn't have everything out and displayed
>(Oct 29th) as of that date, so I expect to see more when I visit them
>the next time I'm in LV. For those new to CD or TG, and going to DLV, a
>stop to GB on a 'shopping' day would be good for them.
John and Anthony of Glamour Boutique talked about an open house some
afternoon. Looks like Thursday afternoon will probably work the best.
I'm sure they're gonna get our people in and out all week, though.
>I'm not sure, but I beleive that they can schedule make-up (cosmetics)
>sessions also...someone local to LV should verify this if they do or
>not.
Yes, they do makeovers, both instructional type and transformation type.
They have some local people there, but they will be occasionally be
bringing in Jamie Austin from the Mass. store on occasion. One of those
occasions will (hopefully) be the DLV week.
Anyway, thanks for the report. Everybody who has been there seems to be
giving this place thumbs up.
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Address confusion:
>Hi Annie! I made a boo-boo .... the earlier message I sent was
>accidently also sent to: dlvorg@ivgate.omahug.org .... and also to
>dlvorg@geekbabe.com. I realized the mistake after it was sent. Please
>forgive me... I hope it doesn't get sent to everyone on the list ...
Well, it is getting sent to everybody on the list. It appears above. :)
Seriously, those two addresses are both correct. ivgate is the name of
the machine that serves the mailing lists for geekbabe.com and several
others. The "correct" address is dlvorg@geekbabe.com but the address
it is sent from is actually ivgate.
Don't worry, you have to try hard to send something to the list without
getting it approved via the moderation software. The main dlv address,
dlv@geekbabe.com, has been on web pages and newsgroups for years, and
gets several spam mailings per day typically. None of those ever get
sent to the list. :)
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Sheesh:
>>Las Vegas variety shows, you know, the ones with showgirls, animals,
>Hey, I saw a show with showgirls and animals down in Tijuana.
No comment. {jeez!}
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Summary Schedule of Activities:
Date Day Time Activity
========== ========= =========
Apr 30 Tue Morning
Afternoon Milano's Welcome Dinner
Evening Pre-DLV get-together
May 01 Wed All day Blond Hair Day
Morning
Afternoon
Evening Keys Buffet Dinner and Welcome celebration
May 02 Thu Morning
Afternoon Glamour Boutique Open House
Evening Female Impersonator Show
Limo tour
May 03 Fri Morning Golf
Afternoon Carluccio's Dinner (5:00pm)
Evening Goodtimes Annual Mixer
Late Night Dance Night
May 04 Sat Morning
Afternoon Mall Crawl
Evening Las Vegas "Legacy" show
Midnight Rocky Horror Picture Show
May 05 Sun Morning
Afternoon Side trip
Evening Buffet dinner, Palace Station
Farewell Get-together
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Tentative DLV 2001 schedule:
as of Sun Nov 11 17:41:04 CST 2001
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Tuesday, April 30:
Activity Name : Welcome dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 5:00pm
Location or Venue : Milano's
Expected Dress : Casual (moderately dressy ok)
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $15 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 30
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Casual Italian, American, Greek, Mexican
...
Activity Name : Pre-DLV get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : T-friendly lounge TBA
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : One one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
...
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Wednesday, May 1:
Activity Name : Buffet dinner and Welcome Celebration
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, Ev
Location or Venue : Keys
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $12 per person plus drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 60
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments : Light entertainment to follow.
...
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Thursday, May 2:
Activity Name : Glamour Boutique Open House
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, Aft
Location or Venue : Glamour Boutique, 714 E Sahara
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for purchases
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
...
Activity Name : FI Show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, Ev
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Nice casual to very dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : Ca 100
Organiser Required and who : Probably
Comments : Frank Marino or Kenny Kerr
...
Activity Name : Limo Tour
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, after show
Location or Venue : Las Vegas Strip
Expected Dress : Nice :)
Expected Cost (If any) : $15 pp
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 7, 14, 21 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Aiko
Comments : Delmar, etc.
...
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Friday, May 3:
Activity Name : Golf
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 10:00am
Location or Venue : Golf course {duh}
Expected Dress : Casual or athletic, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 4 8 12 16 20 24 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Mindy
Comments : Details TBA
...
Activity Name : Dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 5:00pm
Location or Venue : Carluccio's
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for dinner and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Leah
Comments :
...
Activity Name : Annual Mixer
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : Goodtimes
Expected Dress : Casual to modrerately dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Possible need to change venue
...
Activity Name : Dance Night
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 11:30pm
Location or Venue : Gipsy, et. al.
Expected Dress : Whatever
Expected Cost (If any) : Cover and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
...
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Saturday, May 4:
Activity Name : Mall Crawl
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, 12:00n
Location or Venue : Various
Expected Dress : Casual, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for what is purchased
Maximum Numbers (If any) : None
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Annie
Comments : Belz, Boulevard, possibly Primm
...
Activity Name : Las Vegas show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, Ev
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) :
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments : Legacy LV show or newer artsy show
...
Activity Name : Rocky Horror Picture Show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, 12:00m
Location or Venue : Paradise 6 Cinema
Expected Dress : Anything goes (really)
Expected Cost (If any) : $4.50 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 150
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : HAS to be better than last year.
...
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Sunday, May 5:
Activity Name : Side trip
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su, PM
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Casual, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : Possible donation for park fee
Maximum Numbers (If any) : Capacity of vehicles
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Annie
Comments : Red Rock, Valley of Fire, etc.
...
Activity Name : Buffet Dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su, 5:30pm
Location or Venue : Palace Station
Expected Dress : Casual recommended
Expected Cost (If any) : $7.95 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Meet at top of escalator, 5:30pm
...
Activity Name : Farewell Get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su Ev
Location or Venue : TBA
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On ones own for drinks and whatever
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 120
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
...
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