Subject: dlvorg Loose ends and stuff ...
From: Annie (annie)
Date: Sun Nov 11 2001 - 00:04:27 CST
In this mailing:
Timing and some concerns
Side trips and such
Buffets and Keys
T* shops
Summary Schedule of Activities
Tentative DLV 2001 schedule
Administrivia
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Timing and some concerns:
We how have three weeks until we wind this list down for the holidays.
As I've said before, we have most of our major bases covered, and a
well-rounded schedule of activities that I'm sure will appeal to the
DLV 2002 potential participants.
However, I have one major concern here, regarding one major un-done
item on the schedule. That is the Saturday evening show. We've had
several calls for comments and discussion with very little in the way
of comments and discussion.
More importantly, nobody has stepped forward and expressed any interest
in doing the legwork to make this happen. We're gonna have to have one
(or more) of our DLV vounteers (that's us, gang) agree to do this if we
want it to happen.
I'll start the discussion here. Please continue. Let's hear your
thoughts, feelings, and concerns.
A reasonably accurate list of shows of various types appears in the Neon
section of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. http://www.lvrj.com/neon/
We probably don't want a FI type show for Saturday, since we're doing
Frank Marino on Thursday and since we did a (kinda) FI show on Saturday
last year. That leaves basically these types of shows, those being:
1. Legacy Las Vegas variety shows, you know, the ones with showgirls,
animals, showgirls, dancers, showgirls, magicians, showgirls, guest
stars, showgirls, gauchos, did I mention showgirls? :) These are
becoming a scarce item now, but there are a few still out there, such as
Folies (did that last year), Jubilee, Splash (did that in 2000) and a
new one, LaFemme. They tell me (the ubiquitous "they) that Skintight
has closed or is closing.
2. I'll call these the non-FI musical impression shows, such as Legends
In Concert, American Superstars, Honky Tonk Angels, Rat Pack, etc.
3. The non-showgirl musical/dance/magic/whatever show, such as EFX and
even such things as Lord Of The Dance. I'm unclear whether Wayne Newton
fits here or in 1, since I don't know how many showgirls he has in his
show. :) S&R would probably fit here.
4. The newer "artsy" show such as Mystere or O. I would put Blue Man
Group in here too, but it's much earthier than the other two. De La
Guardia has closed or is closing.
Anyway, I can imagine shows of any category above being candidates.
Categories 3 and 4 tend to be a bit more spendy than those in 1 and
2, but there are reasonably-priced shows and expensive shows in just
about any category.
We can discuss the shows here, but I prefer that the final selection of
the specific show be up to the person(s) who volunteers to coordinate
the activity for DLV.
For those who are hesitant toward volunteering due to the hoop-jumping
and complexities, there are some shows where the collection of $$$ is
not necessary. For Kenny Kerr last year, all I had to do was to provide
them an approximate headcount as the date approaches. Everybody paid
separately. Experience has shown us that with La Cage, it's not
difficult to get the group seated together, even though they paid
separately as long as everybody is on time.
Anyway, I would like to see us get some discussion (and some volunteers)
on this before we break for the holidays.
Comments? (volunteers?)
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Side trips and such:
Leah writes:
>Can't offer much help on Mt. Charleston.....never been there. That's
>because it was my understanding that there is only a lodge up there
>which is open yearround. I imagine they have some sort of park area
>too. Other than the lodge for ski clothes and equipment I have not
>heard of any other shops or even a town area for that matter.
Thanks. I've never been up there. Sounds like there is not really that
much to do.
>One other thing to consider is they had two cases of beubonic plague
>there in the last year.....the lesser strain picked up from dead
>animals which is not fatal to humans but will certainly ruin the rest
>of your trip.
Ouch! :(
>If it wasn't made known last year there is now a charge to get into Red
>Rock Canyon ........apologies again but I don't know what it is. Just
>figured it would be too hard to rock climb in heels so I haven't
>gone.......besides, the only hiking I do is to my skirt.
Yes, there is a charge, both for Red Rock and Valley of Fire, as well as
the Lake Mead Rec. Area. Seems like when I've been to all three, the
collection is kinda sporadic. Last time at VOF, they had a note on the
booth to pay at the visitor center.
A few $$$ per car, iirc. At RRC one year, one of our people had a
National Park pass or something like that, which got our vehicle in.
We were strictly sightseeing, not hiking. :)
>I'll keep my eyes open on options for a day trip that might be
>interesting. Maybe some new attraction will come along.
Ok, thanks. I'm thinking of something close and quick as something that
will work for Sunday afternoon. I know we've had proposals for a few
hardcore outdoorsy things, but those have never had people jumping up
and down and waving their hands and yellling "ooo oooh". :)
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Buffets and Keys:
Densie writes:
>>Well, let's open this up for discussion in the group here. Personally,
>>I think a modest buffet would make more of a "special" thing for our
>>people, but ordering off the menu gives freedom of choice and of $$$.
>I'm a buffet slut. I'll do any buffet, any time...even the local
>Ben-Gay factory. There's just something about getting my food right
>away and not having to leave a tip that rocks my world.
I admit I enjoy many of the Las Vegas buffets. On my trip a few weeks
ago, I think the only meal I did not eat in a buffet was at Keys that
one evening.
Buffets do, unfortunately, vary in selection and quality. Places with
"Station" in their name seem to be quite consistently good. I've always
liked the Sahara buffet, but some of our people last year complained
about it. I've enjoyed both the Fitzgerald's and even Boardwalk, even
though the LV discussion groups will tell you both are to be avoided.
I do agree that the buffets at C**2 and Westward Ho are toxic.
More I think of it, the more I'm leaning toward suggesting a modest
buffet for the Keys evening. A couple main items that are well-liked and
some sides, maybe a small salad spread as well. Certainly nothing fancy,
but something that most everybody will enjoy.
Leah, next time you're in there, can you ask them what kinds of items
they could do for something like this and give us some ideas? Then we
can make some informed decisions.
>>Personally, I have never had a bad meal there. However, I know the
>>kitchen part has gone thru several iterations of change since we first
>>wandered in there in 1998. I know the 2000 people complained of a very
>>limited menu and slow food service.
>I have to admit that it's hard for any place in Vegas to compete
>foodwise.
Very true. With the lavish all-u-can-scarf buffets and the loss-leader
specials, it is hard for the independent places to keep up. However, Las
Vegas does seem to have a good variety of non-casino restaurants and the
casino specials do help keep prices reasonable.
>The night that we didn't go to Folies Bergere, we went to a buffet that
>was serving some of the best prime rib I've ever had, and they were
>practically spoon feeding it to us because they were about to close and
>they didn't want it to go to waste. And then there was the time that I
>went to Silverton's little restaurant and got a whole lobster (yes,
>they killed it first) for $14.95. Anyone on the home front who claims
>to have good food at great prices should try comparing themselves to
>Vegas.
>>I really think the Las Vegas market, both townie and transient, can
>>support at least two stores of that type.
>Hmm...transient...a Freudian slip, perhaps? Did I say "slip"?
>Oooooooh!
Hey, *I'm* not the one who keeps bring this up! :)
>>You mean the other TWO queens. I had to crop out the other one. {meow}
>Good point. Although the final staging area and veto option is a good
>thing, it might be wise to point out that the best way to avoid being
>in a photo is to let us know before we snap our shutters.
I think for this year, I'm gonna put a section on this in the War And
Peace edition of the newsletter that goes out right before DLV. We might
also warn everybody while we are taking the group shots that if they
don't wanna appear on the web, or even on the front page of their
hometown newspaper ... who knows where those pics will end up ... then
they should not pose.
I don't really think the person who complained last year was aware of
the fact that the chance of being recognized by a casual web surfer is
so small as to be statistically insignificant.
>>Uh, I'm not the one who was invited to spend the night at the [Delmar],
>>remember? :) I always get invited to classier places. :)
>I don't think you could possibly be invited to a less classy place, but
>I'm sure we would all be interested in hearing about these invitations,
>and, um...how many of them do you accept?
Do we really want to post that to this list? :)
>How many Galliano sours does it take to get you to leave your
>inhibitions behind?
Uh ...
>And what's this I keep hearing about you and lidocaine?
Yes, unfortunately, I have to go to the dentist every so often ...
>>I don't think this is DIRECTLY due to the attack, but more of a ripple
>>effect
>Ripple?!? Before you were drinking Galliano!
Actually, for once I'm gonna have to admit something you said was
correct. :) Years ago I was helping console a FOAF after a recent
breakup and three of us consumed this huge container of Ripple in a
very short time with no food. I was *very* sick the next morning.
Ripple doesn't taste that bad, sneaks up on you, and does not make you
simply inebriated, but very sick.
Galiano {sic} on the other hand smells nasty, tastes totally 144, and
at least gives the clue that it might not be the best thing to be
consuming, along with such things as kerosene, Pine-Sol, dimethyl
hydrazine, and Yoohoo. :)
>>>They [Goodtimes] now have a dance floor area with DJ and put a new
>>ladies room in there
>Did they finally figure out that ladies' room needs to have a trash can
>in the stall?
Hey, just throw it in the hopper and flush! :)
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T* shops:
>>>Unrelated to food.....A Hidden Woman from the Reno area is opening a
>>>shop here next month. Sounds to me like it will be close to where the
[snip]
>>I really think the Las Vegas market, both townie and transient, can
>>support at least two stores of that type. I was hoping to see LVFT and
[cut-paste]
>>I really can't see either shop being a threat to the other's health.
>I hope your right, Annie. But keep in mind, there's only so many
>wigs sold each week, and with two shops, that's half the wigs and
>half the profit on each shop. I really think Glamor Boutique was
>the coffin nail for Fantasy Tours.
I hope I'm right too, but only time will tell. I really think the t*
market in Las Vegas is a gusher just waiting to be tapped. GB is going
strongly for both the townie and transient people. They are doing ads
in both the Bugle (local) and What's On (transient) and if HW does as
well, they will both get traffic that is to this day unseen.
Look around at expressway interchanges. When a McDonalds appears, it is
only a matter of time until Arby's (or Wendy's, or BK, or Kentucky Fried
Rat) appears. Seldom if ever does Mickey's go outa business when the
others arrive. People see that collection of signs and pull off and
patronize all of them.
If I may speak very freely here, LVFT lacked exposure. I saw almost no
advertising, and their web site was not very effective. GB is indeed
reaching out and actively seeking customers.
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Summary Schedule of Activities:
Date Day Time Activity
========== ========= =========
Apr 30 Tue Morning
Afternoon Milano's Welcome Dinner
Evening Pre-DLV get-together
May 01 Wed All day Blond Hair Day
Morning
Afternoon
Evening Keys Buffet Dinner and Welcome celebration
May 02 Thu Morning
Afternoon
Evening Female Impersonator Show
Limo tour
May 03 Fri Morning Golf
Afternoon Carluccio's Dinner (5:00pm)
Evening Goodtimes Annual Mixer
Late Night Dance Night
May 04 Sat Morning
Afternoon Mall Crawl
Evening Las Vegas "Legacy" show
Midnight Rocky Horror Picture Show
May 05 Sun Morning
Afternoon Side trip
Evening Farewell Get-together
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Tentative DLV 2001 schedule:
as of Sat Oct 6 10:07:48 CDT 2001
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Tuesday, April 30:
Activity Name : Welcome dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 5:00pm
Location or Venue : Milano's
Expected Dress : Casual (moderately dressy ok)
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $15 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 30
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Casual Italian, American, Greek, Mexican
...
Activity Name : Pre-DLV get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : T-friendly lounge TBA
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : One one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
...
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Wednesday, May 1:
Activity Name : Buffet dinner and Welcome Celebration
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, Ev
Location or Venue : Keys
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $12 per person plus drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 60
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments : Light entertainment to follow.
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Thursday, May 2:
Activity Name : FI Show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, Ev
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Nice casual to very dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : Ca 100
Organiser Required and who : Probably
Comments : Frank Marino or Kenny Kerr
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Activity Name : Limo Tour
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, after show
Location or Venue : Las Vegas Strip
Expected Dress : Nice :)
Expected Cost (If any) : $15 pp
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 7, 14, 21 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Aiko
Comments : Delmar, etc.
...
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Friday, May 3:
Activity Name : Golf
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 10:00am
Location or Venue : Golf course {duh}
Expected Dress : Casual or athletic, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 4 8 12 16 20 24 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Mindy
Comments : Details TBA
...
Activity Name : Dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 5:00pm
Location or Venue : Carluccio's
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for dinner and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Leah
Comments :
...
Activity Name : Annual Mixer
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : Goodtimes
Expected Dress : Casual to modrerately dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Possible need to change venue
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Activity Name : Dance Night
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 11:30pm
Location or Venue : Gipsy, et. al.
Expected Dress : Whatever
Expected Cost (If any) : Cover and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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Saturday, May 4:
Activity Name : Mall Crawl
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, 12:00n
Location or Venue : Various
Expected Dress : Casual, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for what is purchased
Maximum Numbers (If any) : None
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Annie
Comments : Belz, Boulevard, possibly Primm
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Activity Name : Las Vegas show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, Ev
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) :
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments : Legacy LV show or newer artsy show
...
Activity Name : Rocky Horror Picture Show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, 12:00m
Location or Venue : Paradise 6 Cinema
Expected Dress : Anything goes (really)
Expected Cost (If any) : $4.50 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 150
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : HAS to be better than last year.
...
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Sunday, May 5:
Activity Name : Side trip
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su, PM
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Casual, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : Possible donation for park fee
Maximum Numbers (If any) : Capacity of vehicles
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Annie
Comments : Red Rock, Valley of Fire, etc.
...
Activity Name : Farewell Get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su Ev
Location or Venue : TBA
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On ones own for drinks and whatever
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 120
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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