Subject: dlvorg Moving along ... as planned ...
From: Annie (annie)
Date: Sun Sep 23 2001 - 00:15:27 CDT
In this mailing:
DLV 2002 *WILL* go on
Blonde for the evening
Mixed-mode dress
Summary Schedule of Activities
Tentative DLV 2001 schedule
Administrivia
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
DLV 2002 *WILL* go on:
A bit slow this week, which I kinda expected due to the happenings.
I'll be sending out a note in the September-October mailing to the
effect that DLV 2002 will go on, for better or for worse, with a small
group or a large crowd.
It's far too early to try to speculate on next May's air fares, travel
conditions, hotel rates, etc., but I want to keep going forward with
our plans.
As everybody knows, all kinds of events (both t* and otherwise) in the
immediate to near future have been postponed or cancelled. Reasons cited
have been low response, economic conditions, and uncertainty due to the
terrorist attacks.
We're fortunate that the model of DLV does not require a certain number
of people to break even, nor does it require certain key people to be
present in order to happen.
It's unknown how the recent events and the events to happen will affect
our turnout next April and May.
I do think it's important to say that DLV will go on, for those who can
make it, with a handful of people or a mob. Heck, we had a great time
at DLV 1997 when we could transport the whole group in two cars with
seats left over.
Comments?
News from Las Vegas said business has been extremely slow all over since
the attack, but has shown an encouraging rebound this weekend. Air
prices are at an all-time low. McCarran is operating at about 90% the
flights it was pre-attack, and check-in times are returning to almost
tolerable.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Blonde for the evening:
Tina writes:
>>>Slightly more serious, do you think that we could organize a DLV Go
>>>Blonde Night, where every single girl goes blonde for at least that one
>>>night only? Isn't it a requirement that every tranny try blonde at
>>>least twice in her life?
>>>Responses?
>>Well, I would do it ... for one nite that is. Suggestion: don't make it
>>right before Networld+Interop for obvious reasons.
>They have this marvelous new invention called wigs to facilitate quick
>changes.
Yes, and you remember what happened to me the last time I tried on a
blonde wig. :)
>>Which evening are you thinking of for this?
>Any evening would work, since it isn't a replacement for any event,
>just an attitude and philosophy to be worked into whatever we are doing
>that night. There is a slight logistics consideration: while you could
>buy a blonde wig at one of our LV vendors (Serge, Vegas Girl, etc.),
>you might not get it cut and styled (bang length, etc.) in time, so you
>might want to consider getting a blonde wig before going to LV.
>Of course, it is not a mandatory thing, just an activity to be highly
>encouraged as a fun thing that doesn't cost much.
>Maybe Wednesday would be a good day and night?
We have tentatively planned our Keys thing for Wednesday, and I'm sure
they would not mind a blonde invasion that night and ...
DAY???
Day?
You mean I gotta ..... in public ... ?? :)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Mixed-mode dress:
I'm copying the question and my response to this list in case any of
you others have any comments. There was a question somewhat along the
same line just a couple weeks ago.
Comments?
(Somewhat edited and formatted.)
>Hi, I live in Vegas! (about three years, now). Interestingly enough,
>I first "came out" two years ago, for Halloween. The guy checking my
>ID at C2K kept flipping it over, saying "no way!" When I said "way," I
>guess it was the low pitch that stunned him -- that and the fact that a
>radio DJ I'd hooked up with in the parking lot vouched for me (saved me
>cover, too).
>Last week, I "came out" again. Funny thing, though - no one seemed to
>mind, which I found odd, given the way I was dressed -- in heels only.
>A pair of pewter, 4" double-strap sandals doesn't seem to stir a lot of
>heads here in Vegas, especially when worn along with a pair of jeans
>and a polo-like shirt. In fact, no one seemed to notice at all, except
>an elderly man I ran into while in the bathroom. He just laughed and
>said, "not bad - not bad at all!"
>So - given my desire to wear only minimal items of feminine clothing,
>would you at all object if I tagged along dressed only in heels, or
>perhaps heels and a long skirt? I'm not at all trying to pass, but I'm
>not trying to "gender f***," either. I simply enjoy wearing
>fashionable women's heels and skirts, and feel it's high time our
>society allows for more variety in what men are wearing these days.
First of all, let's get you on the mailing list. This will keep you
informed of what's going on and the plans being made for next spring.
We are starting to get a few queries along this line, so I might be
adding a question about this to the FAQ.
We don't have any explicit "dress code" for our activities, but we do
have general guidelines and specific suggestions for each activity.
In general, we expect all of our people to dress in good taste and act
as a lady or gentleman (or both at times).
In regards to mixed-mode dress, I would say that it might be appropriate
for some activities, but not for others.
I would say that for some activities, such as maybe some late evenings
at some of the t-friendly clubs, tasteful mixed-mode dress might be
appropriate. At Rocky Horror Picture Show, it would fit right in, even
if not so tasteful. :)
For the daytime activities, however, and for the evening ones that are
very much in public, we would strongly recommend something that's very
close to either complete boymode or complete girlmode. As you've found
out, there's quite a bit of latitude in both. I mean, who really looks
at shoes. :)
For all activities, we suggest that our people consider the following
when selecting an outfit:
1. Personal style, likes and dislikes, etc.
2. Age, height, weight, body type, fitness level.
3. The time, place, and circumstance of each activity.
Another thing all of us have to consider is that many of the people in
our group wish to attract as little attention as possible when in an
openly public place. We ask everybody with us to consider this when
selecting their outfits.
Bottom line, I see a number of options for you. What I might suggest is
you come to one of the early activities in either complete boymode or
complete girlmode and kinda get to know the group. Look over the
schedule of activities and discuss with some of the organizers which
ones might be ok for mixed mode, and then plan the rest of the time
according to your wishes.
Anyway, think about it and if you have any other questions or concerns,
please let me know.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Summary Schedule of Activities:
Date Day Time Activity
========== ========= =========
Apr 30 Tue Morning
Afternoon Milano's Welcome Dinner
Evening Pre-DLV get-together
May 01 Wed Morning
Afternoon
Evening Keys Buffet Dinner and Welcome celebration
May 02 Thu Morning
Afternoon
Evening Female Impersonator Show
May 03 Fri Morning Golf
Afternoon Carluccio's Dinner (5:00pm)
Evening Goodtimes Annual Mixer
Late Night Dance Night
May 04 Sat Morning
Afternoon Mall Crawl
Evening Las Vegas "Legacy" show
Midnight Rocky Horror Picture Show
May 05 Sun Morning
Afternoon Side trip
Evening Farewell Get-together
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Tentative DLV 2001 schedule:
as of Sun Sep 9 10:57:58 CDT 2001
. . . . .
Tuesday, April 30:
Activity Name : Welcome dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 5:00pm
Location or Venue : Milano's
Expected Dress : Casual (moderately dressy ok)
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $15 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 30
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Casual Italian, American, Greek, Mexican
...
Activity Name : Pre-DLV get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : T-friendly lounge TBA
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : One one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
...
. . . . .
Wednesday, May 1:
Activity Name : Buffet dinner and Welcome Celebration
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, Ev
Location or Venue : Keys
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $12 per person plus drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 60
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments : Light entertainment to follow.
...
. . . . .
Thursday, May 2:
Activity Name : FI Show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, Ev
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Nice casual to very dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : Ca 100
Organiser Required and who : Probably
Comments : Frank Marino or Kenny Kerr
...
. . . . .
Friday, May 3:
Activity Name : Golf
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 10:00am
Location or Venue : Golf course {duh}
Expected Dress : Casual or athletic, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 4 8 12 16 20 24 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Mindy
Comments : Details TBA
...
Activity Name : Dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 5:00pm
Location or Venue : Carluccio's
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for dinner and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Leah
Comments :
...
Activity Name : Annual Mixer
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : Goodtimes
Expected Dress : Casual to modrerately dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Possible need to change venue
...
Activity Name : Dance Night
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 11:30pm
Location or Venue : Gipsy, et. al.
Expected Dress : Whatever
Expected Cost (If any) : Cover and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
...
. . . . .
Saturday, May 4:
Activity Name : Las Vegas show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, Ev
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) :
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments : Legacy LV show or newer artsy show
...
Activity Name : Rocky Horror Picture Show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, 12:00m
Location or Venue : Paradise 6 Cinema
Expected Dress : Anything goes (really)
Expected Cost (If any) : $4.50 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 150
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : HAS to be better than last year.
...
. . . . .
Sunday, May 5:
Activity Name : Farewell Get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su Ev
Location or Venue : TBA
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On ones own for drinks and whatever
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 120
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
...
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Administrivia:
This is the Diva Las Vegas 2002 organizational list.
Diva Las Vegas 2002
April 30 - May 5, 2002
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
One address for all items regarding this list, additions, removals,
changes, submissions, questions, etc.:
dlvorg@geekbabe.com <--- NOTE: all lower case
Please do not send binary attachments (photos, etc.) directly to the
list, as the list processor will not properly handle them. If you want
to send photos and the like, mail to: annie@annie.net
Archives of this list appear on the web at:
http://www.geekbabe.com/annie/org02arc/
To unsubscribe: Simply reply to this message with the word UNSUBSCRIBE
in either the Subject: field or the first line of an OTHERWISE BLANK
message body. The word "unsubscribe" (case is insignificant) should be
the only item in the subject field or the first line of the message,
justified to the left.
NOTE: WHEN UNSUBSCRIBING, THE FROM: LINE OF YOUR UNSUBSCRIBE MESSAGE
>>MUST<< HAVE THE SAME ADDRESS AS WHAT WE USE TO SEND TO YOU. IF IT
DOES NOT, THE UNSUBSCRIBE WILL FAIL, AND YOU MAY NOT GET A FAILURE
NOTICE. SPELLING COUNTS.
Please pay attention to the above. Many automated unsubscribe requests
fail for this reason.
To send material to this list: Send submission as regular e-mail to
the address: dlvorg@geekbabe.com
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
This archive was generated by hypermail 2a23 : Tue Jun 04 2002 - 07:48:26 CDT