Subject: dlvorg Blonde for a day, etc. ...
From: Annie (annie)
Date: Sun Sep 16 2001 - 00:09:31 CDT
In this mailing:
This Sunday
Activities
Schedule, etc.
Official hotel
Dress Barn
Blonde for the evening
Summary Schedule of Activities
Tentative DLV 2001 schedule
Administrivia
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This Sunday:
If anybody did not get the word, I won't be able to meet at Keys this
Sunday. My conference was cancelled about 12 hours before I was to
get on the plane out to San Jose.
I'm suggesting that everybody go ahead and meet at Keys and have a
drink and a chat. You don't need me to have a good time. :)
Ironic, but the flight I was to take took off more or less on time.
Anyway, they will be rescheduling, and hopefully I will be able to
make it.
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Activities:
Looking over our scheduled and proposed activities, it looks like we're
starting to get a very rich set of things to do, some of them being old
favorites, and others being new and different. Put a selection of these
together, we'll have a DLV that will live in fond memories for a very
long time.
One thing that's missing, however, in many cases, are volunteers to make
these things happen.
Thanks to all who have already stepped forward and volunteered to help
make these things a reality. Hopefully others will now follow your
example.
If you don't think you're up to doing something alone, put in your name
and say you would be willing to assist.
Anyway, here are some of the activities which are now in need of
"adoption":
1. Thursday evening FI show. If it's gonna be La Cage as has been
suggested, it really does not take much effort on your part. All you
really have to do is find out when, where, and how much, and let the
people know what hoops they have to jump thru (like buy a ticket and
show up) if they want to attend.
2. Saturday evening Las Vegas show. This is probably the most visible
and most critical thing that has yet to be adopted. Depending on which
show is selected (and I would say anybody who steps forward to do this
should have considerable say in which show it is), it could either be
easy, such as telling people to show up and pay, or it could require a
bit of busywork, such as was required with the Folies show last year.
3. Limo tour. If this is to happen again this year, we need to have
somebody adopt it and give it a name. This could be almost any evening,
even after our "farewell" party on Sunday.
4. North Rim Grand Canyon trip. Won't really require much legwork other
than making some plans, picking a route, and deciding when to do it.
We also have a few items where people have volunteered to coordinate
something that we must decide on schedule and timeslot issues.
1. Robyn: You volunteered to coordinate a lunch at one of the better
buffets. Any ideas of when you want this to happen? Do you want this to
segue into the afternoon Liberace/LVFT/Goodtimes thing? Looking at the
schedule, Wednesday or Thursday looks like it would be a good fit.
2. Densie: Skydiving. I realize this is not for everybody, but where
on the schedule do you want this. Pick a time. :)
3. Annie: Mall Crawl. I'm gonna put this in for Saturday at Noon.
Why, you ask?
Because I want somebody to plan something big and exciting for Saturday
afternoon and bump this to a weekday ... really. :)
4. Annie: Side trip. I'm gonna put this one down for Sunday afternoon,
kind of as a replacement for the Dam tour. This will be subject to
preemption if/when somebody proposes something else in place of or in
addition to this.
We still have some open timeslots, and some where a second track or
alternative will work. For example, not everybody is gonna want to do
golf. A proposal for some additional activity for Friday afternoon would
be appropriate.
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Schedule, etc.:
Michelle writes:
>Although I like the increased information on the new ACTIVITY form its
>doesn't make it easy to see which slots have been filled.
One thing we do need to keep an eye on is which time slots have NOT been
filled. :)
>I've
>summarised the current proposed schedule in the same format as last
>year and suggest that you publish both full and summarised format. Both
>have their uses.
Do we need both a summary and a detailed schedule? I don't see any
problem with both, but yes it will add to the volume of this mailing.
I've included both in this issue.
Comments?
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>Golf.
>Let me start by thanking Annie for considering me when suggesting the
>prosed timing of the golf. I suspect that this is an attempt to make up
>for "losing" my E-Mail a couple of weeks ago .... :-)
Actually I'm thinking of you in particular, but considering everybody
when I think of the schedule problems that people encountered during
DLV 2001.
>Will 10:00am be early enough?
I'm not a golfer, but I would assume any earlier might not be that
great for those who want to golf and burn the midnite oil ("how do
we sleep while our beds are burning" :) late Thursday.
Any later and we would most likely run the risk of the golfers getting
into a time crunch for the evening activities.
>Well I don't know about "T" prizes but I'd be quite happy to bring
>across a couple of bottles of good New Zealand wine. And they are
>good!
Actually that would make a very good prize, and a great change
from Galiano. :)
>I took three to a California Dreamin' conference about three years ago
>as a gift for Alison ???? who is / was a wine critic / writer. She had
>organised a wine tasting for the group and used one of the three
>bottles as an example. She wouldn't let anyone have the other two
>bottles though!
...
>>>i have also made arragements for 10% discount coupons for all
>>>registered diva attendees at the dress barn in the outlet mall.
>>That is SUPER! I'm sure people will take advantage of this.
>Ditto. That is REAL kewl! Mindy must be a VERY frequent shopper there!
Actually, I think they realize that t* business is important to them.
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Official hotel:
Michelle writes:
>I would also like propose a topic for discussion with a view to a more
>formal decision later in the year...
>Should DLV have an "official" hotel as in
> - a hotel that has good room rates
> - centrally located
> - T Friendly
> - $ friendly
>I sort of anticipate this as a NO ACTION REQUIRED thing in that we
>firstly decide:
>1) We want an "official" hotel
>2) We select an appropriate one (Ie IP, Sahara, etc)
>3) Publish this on the basis that it's up to the participants to get a
>room and rate there, etc.
>This may be useful for new comers who want to be "close to the action"
>and close to the support of the group".
>This is not an issue that bothers me as I will always try and get a
>timeshare unit and am therefore unlikely to be anywhere close to anyone
>else, anyway however the comment made by the Canadian group / travel
>agent suggested to me that this may be worth pursuing.
...
I think most of you know my personal thoughts and feelings about this,
but I'll repeat them anyway. :) :) :)
Let's look at Michelle's burning questions ...
>Should DLV have an "official" hotel as in
> - a hotel that has good room rates
> - centrally located
> - T Friendly
> - $ friendly
I think most everybody agrees that we do need at least one hotel to
name as a suggested/recommended/official/whatever place for our people
to stay.
I think good room rates are a given for consideration as our official
hotel(s).
As for "centrally located", about our only favorite place to stay that
is considered (by LV regulars) to be really centrally located is the
Imperial Palace. The other DLV favorites (Sahara, Stardust, Riviera,
Palace Station, LV Hilton) are toward or off the north end of the Strip.
I think we've kinda gravitated toward those last ones for a number of
reasons, those being good rates (with exception of LV Hilton during
N+I), all of them having a reputation of being t-friendly, or at least
t-oblivious, and the fact that it's usually easy to get a room at one of
them even at short notice.
As to the t-friendliness of the various hotels, a t-hostile hotel in
Las Vegas is the exception and not the rule. I even think there's some
question as to the t-hostility of those that have the reputation of
being so, such as Circus-Circus.
But if we recommend one or more places, I think it's very important
that those places have established themselves as being at least tolerant
of our antics. :)
$$$-friendly? Most of our people want to pay less than 3 figures a day
for accommodations. (Those who want to pay more will have no problem
finding a place that will take their $$$.)
...
However (comma) ...
>1) We want an "official" hotel
Consensus: Yes, it's a Good Thing to get our people together.
Devil's Advocate: No, none of our activities are in that hotel, and our
people stay where they want, so why bother?
Comments?
>2) We select an appropriate one (Ie IP, Sahara, etc)
One question here, do we want to limit this to one and only one?
>3) Publish this on the basis that it's up to the participants to get a
>room and rate there, etc.
Yes, I think it's been firmly established that we don't wanna be in the
money-schlepping business, and that for the most part, our people can
get the best deals if they deal directly with the hotels or with a
travel agent, and take advantage of the bargains that are almost
always available.
...
Bottom line: Most seem to be in agreement that we need, for any of several
reasons, one or more recommended or official hotels. I think it's important
that we discuss these issues now and make some decisions prior to shutting
down this list for the holidays (roughly third week in November). That gives
us a little more than two months.
Personally, I don't see any compelling reason to change last year's
method of recommending two hotels, the Sahara and the Imperial Palace,
letting our people choose from them and others, etc., etc.
Comments?
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Dress Barn:
>I've gone into Tucson's Dress Barn a couple of times looking for
>dresses for special occasions and they've never had anything but pants
>there.
I know they have dresses, at least in most of them. I've been to the Las
Vegas (Belz, there are others) one and one in a small outlet mall a couple
exits up from where I live. I haven't bought anything there, nothing that
really caught my eye. They do seem to do a good business, and Dress Barn
stores seem to be popping up all over the place.
>>Delmar, dressing, drunks
>Lester does have an email address, but it's too disgusting to post in a
>public forum.
Ok, we'll just forward Lester's mail to you and you can send it on. :)
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Blonde for the evening:
Tina writes:
>>>I could be wrong...please let me know if I am... but I didn't see it on
>>>the tentative schedule... please don't forget about a possible 'limo'
[snip][clip][whack]
>Yes, I am NOT organizing the limo tour this year. I enjoyed doing it
>last year and have no regrets, just want to let somebody else have that
>responsibility this year. I hope someone steps up. New activity
>leaders are always welcomed and encouraged.
>Re a new and different activity, no brainstorms yet, other than my
>North Rim car trip suggestion and DLV Go Blonde Night (more on those
>below). Maybe because of too much peroxide affecting the brain? :-)
>I am encouraged by the many good ideas flowing so far from others.
>Side bar... I hope every blonde has taken time to go see Legally
>Blonde. There will be a test at DLV 2002.
>Slightly more serious, do you think that we could organize a DLV Go
>Blonde Night, where every single girl goes blonde for at least that one
>night only? Isn't it a requirement that every tranny try blonde at
>least twice in her life?
>Responses?
Well, I would do it ... for one nite that is. Suggestion: don't make it
right before Networld+Interop for obvious reasons.
Which evening are you thinking of for this?
>>Karaoke
>
>>>>>>Actually, there are some practical considerations with the Goodtimes
>>>>>>welcome. Tina (I think) mentioned that Goodtimes has Karaoke on Wed.
>
>>>I may be interested in doing Karaoke.
<snip>
>I'll probably send out a list of known good karaoke places that are
>t-friendly a couple of weeks before DLV 2002, like I did last year.
>There hasn't ever been a formal DLV event for karaoke (most people
>either love it or hate it), but some DLV girls always find their way to
>karaoke every year I have attended. I hope we'll see you there this
>year.
Karaoke could easily be an after-whatever activity, or a second-track
activity any evening. On Wednesday we have the Keys thing, and those who
want to do or watch Karaoke could easily migrate over to Goodtimes at
the appropriate time.
>>North Rim Trip:
>>>>>I would love to do the North Rim trip. I would estimate its quite a
>>>>>long trip from LV to North Rim. Its at least 122 miles from I-15,
>>>>>north of St George, which is about 120 miles north of LV.
>>>There is a little airport near the canyon, and Tina ...
>>(I assume you mean Gina, or does Tina have talents I don't know
>>about?)
>I was an air traffic controller before the strike in 81 (when I was
>just a baby), but have never been a pilot. In fact, I usually get
>airsick in small planes. Two Dramamine put me to sleep for 24 hours,
>but don't stop me from (ahem) ...barfing.
>Of course, if I could ever find a pilot who could fly straight and
>level...
:-)
>>>... said that she will most likely be bringing her plane again. Tony
>>>and I may end up bringing ours again too, because we're having trouble
>>>getting the boat to run right. It just depends on whether we can get
>>>it fixed up or buy a new motor by then. Perhaps we could take two
>>>loads of people there, or wherever those Beech 99's are dropping off
>>>their loads of tourists, and do the bus tour.
>My original idea had been a driving trip for the weekend before DLV,
>but please continue this discussion of a flying trip to see the Canyon.
>It sounds like a great idea. Just get me a very large airsick bag.
>:-)
Driving or flying day trip could be an option almost any day. Only days
that might be avoided would be Friday and Saturday. I've got a day trip
penciled in on Sunday, and this could be just that, or something in
addition to it. Wednesday and Thursday during the day are still wide
open.
>>Ok, one vote for Frank noted. I do agree with your point, and think we
>>should probably alternate, assuming we continue to do one and only one
>>FI show each year.
>I also like the alternating approach, so this year would seem to be
>Frank's turn. Count me as another vote for Frank
Ok, another vote in the "Frank" column.
>Doesn't that mean reserved seats?
Not really. They claim to enforce seating more than they do. In
actuality they have two classes of seats, regular and VIP. VIP are the
seats up front, regular in back. IMAO, the extra few $$$ for the VIP
seats are well worth it.
History has shown that those who arrive on time and with the group will
be seated with the group, even though their tickets might not have been
ordered as part of the group. Trick to getting good seats together is to
get everybody on line early and together.
They fill the showroom from the very front of the two sections. If
somebody's late, they can't get up front even with a bribe.
On two occasions, we jumped thru hoops to get everybody's tickets
together only to find it was easy to get those who had purchased tickets
separately to be seated with the group.
>Since I consider Kenny far superior, I hope I find time to see his show
>again on the side. I'm worried that he needs the business.
Again, this could easily be a second-track or after-whatever activity.
I might be interested in going out there and seeing it as well.
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Summary Schedule of Activities:
Date Day Time Activity
========== ========= =========
Apr 30 Tue Morning
Afternoon Milano's Welcome Dinner
Evening Pre-DLV get-together
May 01 Wed Morning
Afternoon
Evening Keys Buffet Dinner and Welcome celebration
May 02 Thu Morning
Afternoon
Evening Female Impersonator Show
May 03 Fri Morning Golf
Afternoon Carluccio's Dinner (5:00pm)
Evening Goodtimes Annual Mixer
Late Night Dance Night
May 04 Sat Morning
Afternoon Mall Crawl
Evening Las Vegas "Legacy" show
Midnight Rocky Horror Picture Show
May 05 Sun Morning
Afternoon Side trip
Evening Farewell Get-together
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Tentative DLV 2001 schedule:
as of Sun Sep 9 10:57:58 CDT 2001
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Tuesday, April 30:
Activity Name : Welcome dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 5:00pm
Location or Venue : Milano's
Expected Dress : Casual (moderately dressy ok)
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $15 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 30
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Casual Italian, American, Greek, Mexican
...
Activity Name : Pre-DLV get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : T-friendly lounge TBA
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : One one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
...
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Wednesday, May 1:
Activity Name : Buffet dinner and Welcome Celebration
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, Ev
Location or Venue : Keys
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $12 per person plus drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 60
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments : Light entertainment to follow.
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Thursday, May 2:
Activity Name : FI Show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, Ev
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Nice casual to very dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : Ca 100
Organiser Required and who : Probably
Comments : Frank Marino or Kenny Kerr
...
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Friday, May 3:
Activity Name : Golf
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 10:00am
Location or Venue : Golf course {duh}
Expected Dress : Casual or athletic, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 4 8 12 16 20 24 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Mindy
Comments : Details TBA
...
Activity Name : Dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 5:00pm
Location or Venue : Carluccio's
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for dinner and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Leah
Comments :
...
Activity Name : Annual Mixer
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : Goodtimes
Expected Dress : Casual to modrerately dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Possible need to change venue
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Activity Name : Dance Night
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 11:30pm
Location or Venue : Gipsy, et. al.
Expected Dress : Whatever
Expected Cost (If any) : Cover and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
...
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Saturday, May 4:
Activity Name : Las Vegas show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, Ev
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) :
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments : Legacy LV show or newer artsy show
...
Activity Name : Rocky Horror Picture Show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, 12:00m
Location or Venue : Paradise 6 Cinema
Expected Dress : Anything goes (really)
Expected Cost (If any) : $4.50 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 150
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : HAS to be better than last year.
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Sunday, May 5:
Activity Name : Farewell Get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su Ev
Location or Venue : TBA
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On ones own for drinks and whatever
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 120
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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Diva Las Vegas 2002
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