Subject: dlv2k Special mailing, lots of traffic ...
From: Annie (annie)
Date: Wed Mar 29 2000 - 15:58:15 CST
In this mailing:
Special mailing
Nails
Friday, maybe?
Show comments
Group dinner on Friday
Mailbag
Show feedback
More show feedback
Show feedback
More show feedback
Show comments, etc.
Possible activities, events
DLV2K schedule
Administrivia
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Only 43 days left, gang!
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Special mailing:
This is going out early due to the volume of mail.
One more feedback item we do need is your preference for the legacy LV
show on Sunday, either Follies (Tropicana) or Splash (Riviera). Please
see the notes below and respond with your preference.
We've had a number of comments regarding the FI show situation, all
which are in this mailing. Comments are varied. You can read them below
and respond/comment if you like.
From my own personal standpoint, I want to do what will keep the group
together, but I'm right now at a loss to see what that is.
With our current model for the event, it's not necessarily a Bad Thing
to have part of the group going to one show, and part going to another,
but I think it would be nice to have most everybody in one unified
group, especially for some of the major evening activities.
Anyway, read the comments, give feedback on your opinions, please.
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Nails:
>One thing I haven't seen addressed is nails. I would like to come in on
>like Wednesday and be able to get may nails done so I can just forget
>about that little chore for the rest of the week. Anything available on
>that? Sorry if you have already answered this before.
We have two recommendations for this:
Goldilocks Hair Nail and Face Salon
2800 W. Sahara
873-1141
Phone Marita
La-Rue's Hair Nails and More (Hair, makeovers)
Commercial Center Suite D8
953 East Sahara
735-2418
Phone Cathy
Does anybody local to Las Vegas have any other recommendations?
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Friday, maybe?:
>Say, how about doing one of the shows on Friday.
That is an option, but imao, the timing would be much too tight.
>If it doesn't
>start till 9:30, we can still meet for our welcome thing
>at 7:00 and have plenty of time.
Actually, for real-world Las Vegas, that is not nearly enough time.
I think one of our most important activities, even though it's probably
not the highlight of the weekend for everybody, is the welcome get-
together on Friday evening. One of the primary purposes of DLV is to
meet others, and get to know them. We need to have time to do this,
early in the event. We also need to have this as informal and as
easygoing as we can.
Although the welcome get-together will start at 7:00pm, and some people
will be there like clockwork, some even early, many will be "fashionably
late" either by choice or by chance. We'll have people popping in from
about 7:00 until after 9:00 or so, and that's not necessarily bad, it's
just the way things work in real life.
In order to make a 9:30 show at the Riviera, with decent seats, we would
have to have everybody there by 9:00 at the very latest. That means we
would have to allow at least half an hour to get there, if not more,
Friday evening traffic can be murder, so that means the welcome
get-together would have to break up or fracture shortly after 8:00pm. I
don't wanna see this happen.
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Show comments:
>I got to see both last year, and as far as the show itself went,
>I liked the Marino Show best. It just had a little bit more Zip
>than the Kerr Show. It also didn't slow down between acts, like
>Kenny Kerr did.
>But to put it mildly, the seating sucked! We were crammed into
>this one row of tables. The view was great, but we were like
>sardines. And also, this one swinging spotlight kept hitting
>me right in the eye when it swung out. Very annoying.
I agree, the seats were not the best.
>But to answer your question, no, no objection here to going
>to Marino instead of Kerr.
>Can there be anything done about
>the seats?
If La Cage is indeed the choice, I think the best idea is to be sure
everybody is there early so we can get something that's not so
landlocked. That's a smaller showroom over there at the Riviera (it is
not their main showroom, it is a smaller one upstairs, Splash is playing
in their main showroom) and the "VIP" section does fill fast.
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Group dinner on Friday:
Vicki writes:
>If you want to have a Friday dinner at FreeZone I would be willing to
>volunteer to coordinate that.
That sounds great. Thanks. I'll get this on the schedule. It should
probably be 5:00 or 5:30 at the latest so we don't get in a bind with
our big welcome thing that night.
>I looked at the preliminary schedule again. I think Gipsy (sic) is
>really not an alternative for the RHS on Sat. It will be to jammed. I
>would make the alternative the FreeZone or Keys. There is a Karaoke
>night on Sun. at Freezone. Keys has a lounge act from 9pm-1am most
>nights. It has been remolded and is nicer.
Since I'm not the one coordinating the Gypsy thing, I really can't do
anything about it, but keep in mind that Freezone is right down the
street from Gypsy and Angles/Lace, so if people want one of the others
instead of Gypsy, it's a very brief walk to either of the others.
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Mailbag:
>I just returned from 6 days in Las Vegas. I was there with 40 other T
>girls. This event was similar to DLV2000.
Hmmm, which event was this? I know there was one a couple months back,
but I was not aware of one recently, and I try like heck to find out
about these things.
>I know you realize that with
>so many girls in one place not everyone wants to do the same thing at
>the same time.
Oh yes, I'm well aware of this, as we are finding out more and more. :)
>Based on this fact I have a suggestion. It is to set up
>some type of system that would let those attending sort of "sign up" for
>things they are interested in. For example, Sat night some would sign
>up for RHS, some for Gipsy, etc.
Well, for things like Gypsy and Rocky Horror, it's more like "show up"
instead of "sign up" as there's no advance headcount needed, and nobody
even needs to make up their mind in advance, except in cases where a
ride is needed or something like that.
We will need advance headcounts for such things as the shows, and the
group dinner and such, though. We will call for these toward the end
of April.
>The two places the girls I was with enjoyed the most were the FreeZone
>and Keys Lounge. The FreeZone is about 50/50 gay/les. There is a drag
>show on Fri at 10 and 12. Great dancing. There is a restaurant there
>where we had a group dinner, buffet style. They also have a menu.
>Local T girls go here also. I can recommend the FreeZone over Gipsy.
I've been to Freezone and liked it. Haven't eaten there yet, though.
>For one thing Gipsy is almost entirely young gay. It is so crowed on
>the weekends now that they were actually turning people away on Fri. at
>3am. I went over with a couple of girls about 2am on Sat, and it was
>simply wall to wall people. I think it would be OK on other nights.
I know that Gypsy can get quite zooey on the weekends, but I think the
person planning the trip there had this in mind. :)
I have seen the other places in the Triangle district, Angles/Lace and
Freezone, get quite crowded some nights also.
>We also went to the Las Vegas Lounge on Karen, near Keys. This is TS
>owned, and very friendly. But, I have to report it is not nearly as
>nice as FreeZone or Keys.
I was at Las Vegas Lounge around the holidays, and it looked like it has
potential, but it was just opened then. I'm sure we'll have people go
there in May. They indicated that they did want our business, and should
have the food service part open by then.
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Show feedback:
>>Any objections to doing this (scheduling Frank
>>Marino for Saturday evening and moving Kenny Kerr to another night),
>>please speak up now!
>If I had my druthers, I would choose Kenny Kerr. However, I'll go
>with wherever the group wants to go, one or the other.
I like your attitude. :) :)
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More show feedback:
>>Any objections to doing this (scheduling Frank
>>Marino for Saturday evening and moving Kenny Kerr to another night),
>I vote for Kenny Kerr. Much better show, much better treatment
>by the staff at the hotel. Just my humble opinion, that is.
Ok, thanks, and it's been so noted. :)
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Show feedback:
>I attended both the Frank Marino show and the Kenny Kerr show last year,
>and I strongly preferred the Kenny Kerr show. IMHO, it was so much
>better. Thus, I was really thrilled to see that you always had it
>listed as the Saturday show for this year. Kenny is really, really good
>and worth seeing again.
>
>At this late date, I would be opposed to making a change, since I (and
>perhaps others) have already arranged our travel schedules to be here
>for the weekend nights. If Kenny Kerr is moved to a different night,
>then that would push out one of the other proposed activities (e.g., the
>legacy LV show listed for Sunday). As I remember the discussion, we
>talked about going on sunday to a non-female impersonator show that
>still had a lot of feminine glamour (like Folies Bergere or Splash).
Legacy show will happen on Sunday, but we now need to get a concensus as
to which show to see. See note below.
>I do agree with the sentiments expressed earlier in the year that seeing
>2 FI shows is overkill. We heard a lot of the same jokes both nights.
I do agree the shows are very similar. From a personal standpoint, it's
hard to choose one over the other from last year's performances. IMAO,
both were good, and worth seeing again. However, concensus of the group
said that Kenny Kerr was the preferred of the two shows for DLV 99.
>I would hate to see the group split up on Saturday night for the shows,
>since we are already splitting up for Rocky Horror versus the Gypsy (and
>that was my idea!!).
Yes, I would prefer to do what it takes to keep the group together for
the Saturday evening show, whichever it may be.
>Still, it may be the only way to accomodate the
>Phoenix folks, given their limited schedule.
>
>How large a group of people from Phoenix are we talking about?
Dunno for sure, but I know it will be a significant number of the people
at DLV this year.
>I would propose that you look at the relative proportions of people
>involved and then make an executive decision regarding a schedule
>change. I am sure that we will all be willing to live with your choice.
Most of the feedback has been good, and hopefully things will converge
a bit more as we get closer to May.
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More show feedback:
>I'm happy to go to La Cage (Frank Marino) on Saturday and indeed would
>prefer that. I saw Kenny Kerr last year but haven't seen La Cage for
>about 3 years now.
I'm glad people are showing flexibility here. It will help in keeping
the group together.
>For those who haven't been Frank usually meets everyone as they leave
>the auditorium and you get a chance to take photos and get autographs.
>With a bit of luck and good management we will all be able to have
>photos taken with him/her.
>My SO won't be coming :-( and therefore I have NO opinion on whether a
>lunch should or should not be arranged.
>[[Event 0001: Historic date/time : Michelle did not have an opinion!]]
Actually, that's the only comment we've received about this so far.
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Show comments, etc.:
Tina writes:
>If the schedule holds up that we still want to go to a Legacy LV show on
>Sunday, then I will volunteer to coordinate that.
Great, thanks. :)
>Both Splash and
>Folies play on Sunday and Monday. Please ask the group for feedback
>about which one they would like to choose.
Ok, let's do that now.
**NEED FEEDBACK**:
Tina has volunteered to coordinate this, so please, let's help her
decide which show we're gonna go see. She's suggested two, Follies and
Splash.
Both are long-running Las Vegas style variety production shows.
Follies Bergere, Tropicana, Longest running production show in Las Vegas
history. $40-50-ish.
Splash, Riviera, Long-running variety show with impressive effects.
$40-50-ish.
Please let us know which one of these you prefer. Just hit REPLY to this
message and say so.
>Now there is another possible solution to this problem of choosing
>between Frank and Kenny on Saturday night. The early show for both
>Splash and Frank's shows start at 7:30 on Saturday, so we could offer
>people a split between them and yet still be traveling (more or less) as
>a group, and then go see Kenny another night. I really don't like this
>idea, but I thought I should mention it.
I really don't like this one. Sounds to me like it would result in a
three-way split. :(
>Recall that I had voluntered a long time ago to organize the Gypsy trip
>on Saturday night.
Yes, and it's on the schedule. Thanks.
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Possible activities, events:
(Those not already on the schedule.)
1. Group dinner (theme night?)
2. Thrift shop tour.
3. Concert at Hard Rock.
4. Side trip(s) (Rhyolite, Valley of Fire, etc.)
5. Outlet mall shopping.
6. C&W club.
7. Sightseeing airplane rides.
8. Liberace Museum (some afternoon).
9. SO's luncheon.
Anything missing here? Incorrect? If so, send it in.
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DLV2K schedule:
(Still preliminary.)
Thursday Evening : Possible group dinner (NEED VOLUNTEER)
Pre-DLV get-together
Friday AM :
Aft. : Possible makeovers
PM : Group dinner, Freezone
Evening : Welcome get-together
Optional nightclubbing
Saturday AM :
PM :
Evening : FI Show (TBD)
Midnite : Rocky Horror Picture Show
Alternate: Gypsy (nightclub)
Sunday AM :
PM : Dam tour
Evening : Group dinner (NEED VOLUNTEER)
Show - Legacy LV
Monday AM : Golf outing (AM or PM)
PM : Side trip(s) (NEED VOLUNTEER(S))
Evening : Possible show (NEED VOLUNTEER)
Tuesday AM :
PM : Shopping trip (malls/thrift)
Evening : Bar/club tour
Wednesday : Bibi {sniff, sob} :(
Wildcard options include gaming, nightclubbing, sightseeing, shopping,
side-trips, people-watching, etc.
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