Subject: dlv Up in Berkeley, out in Queens ...
From: Annie (annie)
Date: Sun Feb 18 2001 - 00:04:23 CST
In this mailing:
Welcome
Headcount projection
Hiking in Red Rock
Weather
Dress code
Confirmation question
IRC
Drinking notes
Shows (Folies)
Roommates
Clubs
Kenny Kerr, LVRS, etc.
Registration
Latest schedule (updated)
Latest headcount
Web Sites
Administrivia
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Only 72 days left, gang!
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Welcome:
(Okay, okay, enough games with the subject lines for this year. :)
Welcome to those who just joined. Several new people on the list this
week and yet more registrations.
Yes, it looks like we will have a very good crowd this year, and another
fantastic DLV!
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Headcount projection:
Now that we have our registrations cleaned up (thanks, gang), we'll
start publishing an extrapolated headcount projection in the headcount
section below. Think of it as a semi-scientific guess. Don't be
surprised if it actually drops at times, since registrations seem to
come in spurts, like right after a note "be sure to register" appears
here.
This figure should converge on an approximation of the true headcount
as the day approaches.
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Hiking in Red Rock:
Brandi writes:
>Just wanted to let you know that I am willing to lead a hike into Ice
>Box Canyon in Red Rock Canyon area on Saturday or Sunday during DLV.
>I must set a few conditions though, the first being that participants
>understand that this is somewhat (though not very) strenuous, and good
>quality running shoes or (ideally) hiking boots are required. It is a
>relatively easy route and most folks can do it, but if the person has
>orthopaedic problems, it may not be advised. I will make the pace easy
>to accommodate all.
>I will require that participants bring either fanny packs, or back packs
>with water. This is a basic mandotory safety item. Hikers can bring
>what they want, but I highly recommend 2 liters.
>It does not matter if participants are en femme, or en drab, but they
>should understand that it will require climbing over rocks, boulders,
>etc. In other words, shorts and tops are ok, but heels/hose are a no
>no.
>I have done this hike several times, and am very familiar with the
>route. This is probably the easiest canyons to hike into, to really
>understand the beauty of the area.
>If there is interest, I will also be willing to do a hike through the
>narrows at Valley of Fire instead of the Ice Box canyon hike. This would
>start at the 'White Domes' area, pass by the remnants of the movie set
>from "The Professionals", and through some really neat narrows. I can
>make this as easy or as strenuous as hikers want. We can do side trips
>to the petroglyphs, beehives, 7 sisters, and other special areas.
Thanks, Brandi.
Ladies, gentlemen, please speak up (just reply to this message) if there
is interest in this. I know this is quite different, but if you would
like to do something outdoorsy en femme (or in boymode) we could easily
second-track this on Saturday or Sunday morning and/or afternoon.
Sooooo, if you're tired of P-town Annie leading you on those hikes thru
casinos and shopping malls, here's your chance. :)
FYI, we took a driving trip to Red Rock in 1999 and to Valley Of Fire
in 2000. Photos of both are on the DLV web page.
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Weather:
>What is the average temperature for the first week of May?
Normally highs are in the 80's to 90's and lows are in the 60's.
However (comma) last year it was unseasonably cool, even though they had
forecast highs in the 90's just before I left for DLV. In 1997 it was
very warm. One of the people was filming us outside the Liberace Museum
and I thought I was gonna melt! It was well over 100.
>I'm starting to plan wardrobe already!
At most, a sweater or light jacket is all you should need, and mostly
on the casino floors. :)
IMAO, they OD on the AC in LV! :)
>Also, I need to decide if I should bring my "big hair" or leave it at
>home in favor of shorter, cooler styles.
Well, they tell me my hair is "big", and I never felt uncomfortably
warm, but I'm used to it, summers are hot around here too.
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Dress code:
>Say, question here. Is there a Dress Code for Diva?
Not really. We give specific suggestions for dress for each activity
shortly before DLV. If you want a general guideline, I would say that
dress should be "appropriate to the occasion", which for Las Vegas gives
everybody quite a bit of leeway. For most of our activities, anything
from casual to moderately dressy, either boymode or girlmode, would be
appropriate. One caveat is to avoid overdressing in the daytime.
>Is there any kind of a Code Of Conduct for Diva conventioneers?
Nothing specific. Just be nice and considerate of others. Act as a
lady or gentleman, whichever you prefer at the time. :)
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Confirmation question:
>The listing sent out, under SO attending? I had a 'f'. Concerned that
>I might have typed in something where I should NOT have, I checked the
>URL site. It showed a "No" (which is correct). So I didn't make any
>changes. I'm not sure if there was a type of error in the conformation
>listing or a glitch in the email, but I thought I would let you know.
This is not an error. The "so_attending" field is boolean, which prints
as "t" or "f". I should probably map this to "Yes" or "No" in the
reports so it won't confuse anybody. Sorry 'bout that.
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IRC:
>>>I have not seen anyone on #transgender for quite some time. It is like a
[bobbitt]
>>#transgender on efnet is very close to dead. #crossdress on efnet is still
>>around, but does not have the traffic it used to. Many of the regulars
[snip]
>>/server irc.pinkmyst.com
>>/join #transgender
>Annie, did this get sent to the wrong list, or am I missing something?
>This makes no sense at all to me.
#transgender and #crossdress refer to IRC (Internet Relay Chat) channels,
similar to what some people know as "chat rooms". The people who started
DLV back in 1997 met on IRC. Many DLV people are IRC regulars.
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Drinking notes:
>> (insert tongue in cheek)
>>
>> >> Drinking en femme:
><<snip>>
>>
>> Speaking of which, if I may digress for a few lines, this weekend was
>> the first time I remember being served a can of beer with a straw. :)
>Well, there's your problem honey. Time to go back to cocktails. :-)
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Shows (Folies):
Tina writes:
>> >hmm I wonder if there are still shows that have NO reservations, and
>> >would still require the 'tipping' of the guy at the door who has the
>> >power to seat you, to ensure you have a good seat, where the size of the
>> >tip determines how close to the stage you are? The show at the Tropicana
>> >USED to be like that...now I think all seats are reserved in advance.
>Yes, all seats for the Folies Bergere shows at the Tropicana are now
>advanced reservation for reserved seats, requiring a credit card. DLV
>girls generally like to sit together at shows as much as possible. As
>the organizer for the Sunday night show event, I am trying to figure out
>a way to get a block reservation made without requiring each DLV girl to
>send me a credit card number. I DEFINITELY don't want to go down that
>road.
>I'm thinking about purchasing a small number of tickets in advance, and
>re-selling them at cost to DLV girls, for those who want to be in the
>group seating. I would require pre-payment by money order (no cash, no
>checks).
>I'm thinking about opening up reservations in early-March and continuing
>to accept advance orders until early to mid-April (until about 3 weeks
>before DLV starts). The Tropicana only accepts reservations starting
>one month in advance. I just confirmed this by phone with their box
>office staff. I'll use my credit card to pre-pay for tickets that have
>been reserved via money order.
>Tickets for the better seats (the booth seats) are $62.45 each, plus tax
>(drinks not included, no minimum drink requirement). Since tickets are
>non-refundable and non-exchangable, I won't be able to give a refund to
>anybody who cancels. The Tropicana will have my credit card number, so
>I'll get charged whether you show up or not. (Candidly, I had a problem
>last year with cancellations for the show I organized for DLV 2000.)
>I'll pick up the block of tickets when I arrive in town, and you can get
>your ticket(s) from me at any main DLV event, starting that Thursday
>night.
>I do want every body to get their tickets from me by Saturday night. I
>don't want to be handling tickets at the last minute on Sunday night.
>(That didn't work well last year.)
>There are advantages to this system:
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> - Since your name never appears on the ticket, and won't appear on the
> money order (depending on type), you preserve some degree of
> anonymity, if you prefer.
> - You avoid the hassle of dealing with box office people.
> - You get to sit with the main DLV group.
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>There are also disadvantages:
> - You have to trust me enough to mail me a money order for $62.45.
> - You have to make contact with me at one of the DLV events, so that
> I can physically hand you your ticket(s).
>
>After the mid-April deadline (exact date TBD), you would need to make
>your own reservations, but I could still act as a focal point of
>information so that you could try to get seats as close to the main
>group as possible.
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>I want to finalize these details during the first week of March. Any
>thoughts from anyone?
Sounds like a plan to me. :)
Thanks, Tina, for coordinating this. I'm sure everybody will appreciate
your efforts and cooperate so everybody can sit together and enjoy the
show and the company. (And yes, I plan to attend this year. :)
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Roommates:
>I am interested in attending and would like a roommate.
Ok, let's get you on the mailing list and catch you up with the last
mailing. This will let you know what's currently going on.
Here's the notes about roommates that appeared once in the mailing
list. If you're interested in sharing a room write in as below.
+If you've already booked a room, and would like for somebody else to
+stay with you and share the expense, or if you're looking for somebody
+who has extra space, please write to the list (dlv@geekbabe.com) with
+the word "Roommate" somewhere in the subject line. Please include the
+following items in your e-mail:
+1. Your name.
+2. Your e-mail address.
+3. What date you will be arriving and what date you will be departing.
+4. Do you have a room to share, or do you need space in one.
+5. Any annoying habits or traits you have. (Do you smoke, do you snore,
+are you a very early riser, compulsive talker, late-nite MTV addict,
+etc.)
+6. Any additional notes or comments.
+When we have roommate items, we will include them in a special ongoing
+section toward the bottom of each mailing. Those interested in sharing
+rooms can then contact each other by e-mail and make arrangements.
+Please remember, any roommate arrangements are strictly between the
+people involved, and I or anybody else cannot be responsible if things
+don't work out (etc. etc., you know the drill).
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Clubs:
>There certainly are "straight" clubs in Vegas that we would enjoy and
>feel comfortable at. Studio 54 and The House of Blues are two. Places
>such as these attract every type of person, and although T girls are in
>the minority, they are certainly not unknown. You will get some looks,
>but I would be shocked if there were any unpleasant incident.
>I sure don't consider Gipsy anything but a gay club. Of course some
>T-girls go there and also Angles next door. Have you seen the dance
>floor on a weekend? It's wall to wall guys with no shirt on! Don't get
>me wrong. I like Gypsy for what it is, but is sure ain't like sitting
>in Keys and visiting:)
>It's a shame that FreeZone has fallen into disfavor with some of the
>girls. I was there last year with a group of 30 or so girls, and we
>went there and had a great time. We even had a group dinner there one
>night. It is more intimate than Gypsy, has a nice dance floor, and I
>have never been hassled there.
Well, with 30 or so, nature certainly called. Where did your group
go, which one?
>I use the "ladies" everyplace I go, but
>if that is a no-no at FreeZone, and all they ask is for me to use the
>men's, then it's really no big deal to me.
We may have to agree to disagree on this point. Yes, it *is* a big
deal to me, and to a number of others in the DLV group. I just don't
want to give my business to a place that considers me worth less than
any other person.
Also, in our group we have those who range from heavily closeted to
those who are post-op and fully transitioned. It's absurd to ask the
latter to use an inappropriate restroom, period.
>I assume everyone knows that
>FreeZone is a lesbian bar. So, here is a modest suggestion. On the
>night we go to Gypsy, some girls may want to go next door to Angles or
>across the street to FreeZone. If any do, and need someone to go along
>for support, I will be happy to volunteer.
You can go if you want, but I won't go unless I hear of a significant
attitude change. I'll just go to Angles/Lace, or even over to Double
Down. (Anybody else been there? :)
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Kenny Kerr, LVRS, etc.:
>When do we need to buy tickets and/or make reservations for the {Kenny
>Kerr} show? Please send us all the juicy details.
I don't have the juicy details yet. Since I'm probably gonna be the "Den
Mother" for that one, I'll find out the details and post them about a
month in advance or so. At both DR and Plaza, they were cool with
everybody paying separately but sitting together.
>> a room broker such as Las Vegas Reservation Systems (on the web at
>> http://www.lvrs.com/).
>I've used LVRS every year except the first one, when I showed up without
>a reservation and got lucky. They've always had a room at a reasonable
>rate, even one year when I waited until the week before and had to stay
>at the Silverton...but at least they had that!
Silverton isn't bad at all. I've actually stayed there one nite and
it was nice and comfortable. Big problem is the location. To say it's
on the Strip is really pushing things. It's farther from the main
part of the Strip than downtown Las Vegas is.
>> Nails and makeovers:
>A word of caution about having a full set of acrylic nails done. I had
>them done once, and will never do so again. They were very
>uncomfortable, and when I tried to remove them, even after a two-hour
>soak in acetone, my natural nails were badly damaged underneath. I grew
>a spoon nail for a long time, and have a friend who has permanent spoon
>nails from wearing acrylics for too long. If you want to wear acrylics
>for the rest of your life, OK...whatever, but don't plan on having them
>put on for the weekend and then removing them without any problems.
>> >Remember Annie's great line: "It's a vaction, not a convention!"
>What the hell is a vaction, anyway? Is that like a mini vasectomy?
>> And >YOU< know what happens when I drink Galiano. :)
>Yes, but I went to bat for you and explained it to the hotel maid, and
>she understood...evidently she tried the stuff once.
I think the key word here is "once". :)
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Registration:
To register for Diva Las Vegas 2001 (no charge), visit the URL:
http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/register.html
To change/update your registration, visit the URL:
http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/update.html
The numeric Confirmation Number you get when you register will be your
password to the update page. If you have misplaced or forgotten this,
write to dlv@geekbabe.com with your name and e-mail address and it will
be sent to you.
If for some reason you are unable to register on the web, or if you
would prefer not to, you may register the "low-tech" way by sending
e-mail to: dlv@geekbabe.com as in the years before.
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Latest schedule (updated):
Wednesday: 5:00pm Dinner Milano's
May 2 7:30pm Pre-DLV get-together LV Lounge
Thursday: Morn
May 3 Aft
3:00pm Shopping, dinner, more shopping
After Keys
Friday: Morn Air tours Details TBA
May 4 1:00pm Matinee movie Location TBA
5:00pm Din-din Sahara Buffet
7:30pm Welcome Goodtimes
(Official group photo taken about 9:00pm)
11:00pm Dance Night Gipsy, et. al.
2 AM Late Night Gambling Location TBA
Saturday: 12:00n Shopping and Hopping Start at Paris
May 5 8:30pm Kenny Kerr And Friends Frontier
(Official group photo taken immediately after)
Midnite Rocky Horror Picture Show Paradise 6
After Barhopping
Sunday: Morn Air tours Details TBA
May 6 1:00pm Dam tour
10:00pm Folies Bergere Tropicana
After Limo Tour of Strip
Monday: Morn
May 7 Aft Side trip - Rhyolite
8:00pm Bibi get-together LV Lounge
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Latest headcount:
Sun Feb 18 00:00:24 CST 2001
Ppant signup: 52
SO signup: 13
Total signup: 65
Weighted signup: 45.60
Projected headcount: 80.36
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Web Sites:
DLV main page http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/
Michelle Jenkins http://www.idis.com/mpj
Tina http://home.swbell.net/tinatdre/
annie http://www.geekbabe.com/annie/
Julie http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Park/9289/
Rickie's Place http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/rick121
Margeth http://www.geekbabe.com/margeth/
Melissa http://www.geocities.com/melissa_t17
Cactus Rose Club http://www.geocities.com/crc_az
Debbie Sage http://intermind.net/~sage/
Vicki http://hometown.aol.com/vickits44/myhomepage/index.html
Mindy http://www.fortunecity.com/village/freedom/785/
Bea http://BeatrizZ.tripod.com/
Lorraine http://members.tgforum.com/lorraineadams
Julie Anne http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Chelsea/8576/
Dorothy http://dorothy_d.homestead.com/home.html
Denise (Densie) http://www.geekbabe.com/admaero/
Linda http://hometown.aol.com/lindatvgirl/myhomepage/profile.html
Any others? If so, send them in (just hit REPLY).
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