Dilema (resend, complete)

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This posting is from: Kim
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Ok here goes - and I'm sure you have heard tis before - I live in
Northern NV which really has nothing to do with why I am writing. I want
to attend the 2007 event but I am nervous. I am and have been a
subscriber to Diva Las Vegas for several years- I am not an "Admirer" in
the negative sense of the word - that is I am NOT looking for sex or a
one night stand.

I had my first ever Maekover at the Glamour Boutique with Amy in October
of 2005. It was a wonderful experience but I noticed a few things -
First it took almost 2 hours of dressing and makeup - I could not do
this by myself. So if the Diva event last for a whole week that means a
weeks worth of female clothing and makeup - How do the rest of the "out
of towners" do this?

The second biggest concern but not as big as the first - how does one
learn to to walk,talk and act in a feminine manner over night? I know
"practice practice practice." The fact is that my male persona and body
structure is definitley not very femanine. I don't want to look line a
football player or truck driver in DRAG. How do you all accomplish
this?

I have no clue how to go about putting on makeup each and every morning
and having it last throughout the day.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Joel aka Kim


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This posting is from: Rosaliy
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Well Kim;

Practice makes perfect as the old saying goes and that is true. I don't
put on makeup every day but I do dress every day and after a while that
part is easy. Makeup is a little more difficult until you manage to get
the right combination of foundation, blushes etc that work for you.

The face is easy unless you have a dark heavy beard or tend to be dark
and heavy. A very close shave is a must every day to keep the hair
minimal.

A friend on the internet, using a combination of web cam and phone, was
my first real makup coach. She suggested a red lipstick as a pre-coat
around the beard area followed by foundation and powder. The purpose is
to "cover" the bluish shadow usually caused by that same beard hair. I
use a red blush to achieve the same affect because it is easier to use
and just as effective. After that - experiment - especially with the
eyes.

It does take time to get these things down. My "coach" takes 2 to 3
hours to do her makeup but the results are well worth the effort. I
don't to anything quite so perfectionist and exotic and can usually do
my makeup in one to one and a half hours.

As for doing this every day for a week, well I am not an out-of-towner
being a Vegas resident. That makes it a bit easier for me anyway. But
you did hit on the operative words - practice - practice - practice.

Walking and talking are different issues too. I am the last person to
coach anyone on voice but that takes a LOT of practice from what I have
read on the web. Developing a femme voice takes work and requires
re-adjusting HOW you use your voice. Women operate a little differently
than men in that area. I can tell you this though, it does not work
going for a higher pitched falsetto. All that does is make you sound
like a guy in drag. Even with practice though, your voice MAY still
allow you to be read. Effectively altering how you use your voice will
get you closer to a femme sound. However, many don't even try for that
since it is easier to just talk as you have always done. IF YOU want to
achieve that level of development though, research it on the web and
study the material available. There is a lot of it out there.

Walking takes near as much effort as talking. It has to do with the
difference in the way our hips are arranged. I doubt I have achieved
any degree of accuracy in that area any more than I have with voice but
from what I have already read, it is possible but not for a casual
dresser. To perfect the illlusion, ya have to practice. Well I hope some
of this helps and I hope others have helpful comments for you as well.

Perhaps we may even meet.

Rosaliy


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This posting is from: annie
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>I want to attend the 2007 event but I am nervous.

This is very natural and expected. It's ok to be nervous.

Please let me assure you that at DLV, even though you may not know
anybody yet, you will be among friends -- some of the finest people
you will ever know on either side of life.

>First it took almost 2 hours of dressing and makeup - I could not do
>this by myself. So if the Diva event last for a whole week that means
>a weeks worth of female clothing and makeup - How do the rest of the
>"out of towners" do this?

Actually, a lot of our people cite the 2-hour timeframe as being
necessary from a cold start to being ready to go out. Experience will
help make it easier, and there are tricks to help make it less tedious.

One article that may help, "Dressing And The Daily Schedule" is on
line here:

http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/dress/dlvd02.html

It's also not required to do girlmode all the time. Some will do boymode
in the morning, then change and get ready in the afternoon for the
evening. It's really up to you, and yes, you are most welcome to do some
of the things in boymode.

>The second biggest concern but not as big as the first - how does one
>learn to to walk,talk and act in a feminine manner over night? I know
>"practice practice practice."

It does take practice, and there's no real substitution. However, you
can do some homework and some practice prior to DLV.

The article here, on Etiquette and Comportment, is a good place to
start:

http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/dress/dlvd11a.html

>The fact is that my male persona and body structure is definitley not
>very femanine. I don't want to look line a football player or truck
>driver in DRAG. How do you all accomplish this?

Women, both GG and TG, come in all shapes and sizes including yours.

You may never be a 20 year old hottie, but I'm sure you can be passable
and presentable with some practice and the most important thing of all,
that being the right attitude.

>I have no clue how to go about putting on makeup each and every morning
>and having it last throughout the day.

Again, it takes practice.

If you have absolutely no experience doing a basic face, I suggest you
book an Instructional Makeover with one of our recommended makeup
artists. You can do this during the first part of DLV. Have the artist
recommend a look which you can re-create yourself.

> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Another thing I would suggest is to sign up to have a Big Sister. This
will be somebody who can advise and assist you as needed, and give you
some encouragement and some moral support.

Any other questions or concerns, please let us know.


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