From: Diva Las Vegas organizers (dlvorg@geekbabe.com)
Date: Fri Nov 06 2009 - 06:14:21 CST
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Org List
Moving forward
Prom thoughts
Formal thoughts
Prom and shooting (and limo)
More Prom thoughts
Formal affair and Open House
Quiet evening and opener
Working schedule
Administrivia
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Moving forward:
The items regarding the Welcome Celebration and the Hard
Rock proposal will be sent out in a subsequent special
mailing. (Please keep those cards and letters coming
in, gang!) :)
In other news ...
Things are moving along nicely. We do have some decisions to
make regarding the scope of the formal affair, since other
things (closing night, Pity Party) are dependent on our
decisions.
Thanks to all for comments and suggestions. :)
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Closing and Formal:
We have some proposals here for our formal affair which
are starting to show some thought and detail, but they
are becoming quite divergent. We do need to decide which
way to go with this.
Your comments and feedback are needed! Yes!
Specifically, if you PARTICULARLY LIKE any proposal, please
write in and say so.
More importantly, if you PARTICULARLY DISLIKE any proposal,
don't just think to yourself "oh poo-poo, I'll just sit this
one out - blaaaah", write in and let us know that you don't
like it! We want to be sure that any activities we plan are
of interest!
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Hotels:
As of this mailing, we've had NO hotel nominations so far!
Don't be afraid to nominate!
No, if you send in a hotel nomination, I won't immediately
jump on you to volunteer as the Hotel Hostess. (That's
Holly's job, not mine.) :)
Nominations?
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Prom thoughts:
Ginger writes:
>A gay bar near me had a "prom" for several years on the
>advertised assumption that most of their customers had
>been denied that experience in high school. The prom was
>advertised for weeks in advance. The evening of the prom
>they charged a little extra for the cover charge, but as
>I recall not that much more, maybe $5.00 or so, decorated
>in a prom theme, had an especially nice selection of hors
>d'oeuvres, a minimal dress code for the evening, and a
>professional photographer. Like you might expect for a
>gay bar they had a DJ for dancing and around midnight
>they had a drag show. It was very popular and repeated
>for several years until the bar closed when the owner
>got tired of running it and moved to Florida.....
>I still haven't forgiven him for leaving us because he
>had the best bar around.
>Dinner does not have to be part of the prom; think about
>it, if you went to your prom you didn't eat there ....
>that was something you and your date did before the prom!
The idea of dinner seems to be tossed about in regards to
the ideas of making the Prom/Formal a single-track thing
on the last evening.
If it's a smaller multi-track activity, dinner does not
need to be part of it. Of course there could be a dinner
and then the Prom in the same venue, sequentially, or
even concurrently, as with one idea below.
>What is the possibility that some Las Vegas gay bar might
>be persuaded to have a prom theme one evening?
>Our people plus the local people would provide a good crowd
>for something like that. That would remove us from much
>responsibility for organizing it and remove the money
>aspect. Dressy dress would be enough to get you in if they
>had a reasonable dress code.
The venue that comes to mind immediately is the Escape
Lounge on west Sahara. They might be persuaded, particularly
if it means a huge boost in bar patronage on an otherwise
slow weekday evening.
I can see something like that working as a second-track
option against something like the Limo Tour or NSD.
If we could have an optional catered buffet similar to the
one we had at Blue Ox brought in, it might work as a closing
evening max-attendance function as well, but I doubt if they
would want to do that on a Friday.
>The prom I told about was always fun and I miss it, April
>is the prom season and I think something like that might
>be of interest to someone seeking a way to make a buck!
>Something to think about!
Yes, and all it takes for something like this to happen
is for someone to do the legwork and work out the details
with the facility.
As an aside ...
One "prom" type activity which is an annual event in Omaha
is the Groundhog Prom which occurs around Ground Hog Day
in February. It started originally as a spoof on the big
AkSarBen Coronation Ball, a (formerly) big hoity-toity
high-society too-doo here. It's snowballed and has become
quite an affair.
The web site is out of date and not very well laid out, but
if you want to see what it's about, there it is. :)
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Formal thoughts:
JoAnn writes (first-person, no quoting):
Some comments and suggestions for discussion for the
possible Formal Affair on the last night---
*JoAnn's Preamble*
Most of us like the opportunity to dress up and the only
night so far has been the Limo Tour. Another option might
be the "closing night". This event should have a "fun
theme" that ends around 10pm so it leaves time to go to
other venues to enjoy the balance of the evening.
*1st -- the possible Event's activities--*
Social Hour 6pm to 7pm [No Host]
Entertainment 7pm to 8:30pm.
This would be a show with a cover charge that includes
two(2) drinks. Say $20.00
Potpourri & Dinner 8:30pm to 10:00pm
There would have an optional buffet. See prices below.
*2nd --the Potpourri Events*-- during this time of 90
minutes you have dinner for those who want it--and the
following program concurrently--
This is the "fun program"--
-Individual Photo Shoot-- $15 for 10 poses on a CD to be
sent to you
-Chinese Auction-- have 15 items. You buy tickets and
"stuff" the bid box. Do the drawing
-Bidding Auction-- limit to 5 prizes for a floor bid
-Group Photo
*3rd--the Events "housekeeping details"* [Thinking outside
the box, but not off the page!"]
-The location for the evening might be at a social hall.
This might seem out there-- but what about the Church Hall
were Diva attended services the previous Sunday?
-The buffet meal might be catered in. Those who sign-up
prior to Diva week pay $10.00; those who sign up Diva
Week pay $18.00 [includes dessert]
-Have a dessert and coffee/tea table for $8.00/ person for
those who do not want dinner.
Just some thoughts. .... JoAnn Segrue
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Thanks, JoAnn.
That's quite an affair you have planned there! :)
The only thing I read that might not be workable is that
most Metropolitan Community Churches have a no alcohol
policy for social activities. That would put a major damper
on things! I'm not even sure if the MCC in Las Vegas has a
Fellowship Hall or not.
I like the option of prepaying at a significant discount,
with the option of paying in person, although at a higher
price, during DLV week.
Comments, gang?
Do we want to move forward with something like this?
Any comments about the details of JoAnn's proposal?
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Prom and shooting (and limo):
Vanessa writes:
>Greetings to all and looking forward to DLV 2010
>I made it out to Vegas for a long dressing weekend this
>fall and stayed at the MGM and had a great time....staff
>was cordial and great location with walkways to NY-NY,
>Tropicana, Excalibur, etc..very comparable to Paris.
>I like the idea of a Formal Event/Prom and will attend....
>meal or buffet should be optional as with many Proms you
>have dinner before you arrive...
>Bar and Finger foods provided at the event with music and
>dancing....include a short formal program just to get
>everyone's attention and recognize those that help make
>the events occur and even give token awards (maybe hand
>out the golf and shooting awards at the formal event) to
>youngest and oldest...traveled furthest...married longest...
>attended the most DLV's....just get people to know each
>other better and interact.
Thanks, Vanessa.
This is the kind of feedback we need.
Comments, gang?
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>Please keep the Limo Tour... great event, lots of fun,
>just coordinate where we are meeting at each hotel we
>visit or let the Limos take optional paths.
Don't worry, the Limo Tour is not going away, nor will
it be "outsourced". I'm sure that if we mothballed the
Limo Tour for even one year, there would be quite a bit
of b*tching about it, or rather about the lack of it! :)
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>I will be happy to help organize the Shooting activity..
>probably should set for Thursday or Friday morning for the
>shooting event... happy to consider switching over to
>Trap/shotgun shooting this year unless we want to stay in
>town and just use an indoor range to make it more convienent.
Thanks, Vanessa.
By precedent, Gina has first refusal rights to take the
lead for the shooting activity this coming year.
With Gina's permission, I'll put the shooting activity on
the calendar for Friday to hold the spot, with Gina as
the lead and you as the co-coordinator. If Gina wants to
relinquish the lead on this, then we'll move you to that
position.
Gina and Vanessa, If you want this moved to Thursday (or
any other timeslot) let me know.
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More Prom thoughts:
Kumiko writes (first-person, no quoting):
Hi,
I was reading the org on this prom/dinner ideas.
A idea came to mind.
There appears to be those that would love the opportunity to
do a glitzy/gown thingee like a prom/dinner.
Why not go all the way, and combine a few activities for a
possibly fun night to take full advantage of this glitzy
dress-up night.
Here is the idea....
Call it....hmmm... "Putting On the Glitz" night.
How about a HH at a bar at or near the 'Prom' Dinner
location, at around 5-7 allowing one to get pretty and
get dressed (make overs too) in those sequined or
silk or satin gowns, high heels, sparkles/glitter, very
serious evening make-up and get to the location
in a reasonable time during that HH.
Immediately following the HH and showing off how one
looks, and checking out who is wearing what and
socializing, begin the Prom dinner as planned from 7-9pm.
Will there be assigned tables?
Immediately following dinner, one walks confidently
(or even dramatically) out of the restaurant/casino
straight into a waiting Limo, which is the start of the Limo
Tour from 9-11pm. Assignments to which limo has
to be done already.
Think of doing a grand walk to the limo, assisted in by
the driver, then being wisked away in a waiting Limo for a
ride around LV, champagne - or whatever desert beverage
to top off the dinner in the limo, and the traditional stops
for group photos.
The difference is this time, one's in a formal gown, and
having photos in a gown at one or more well known
LV backgrounds, like the Mirage, or Bellagio...etc.
Can you imagine a group shot showing all the gowns?
Or maybe even individual 'Prom' pics by a photographer --
so do we corsages too at the dinner?
Also, one can flaunt being in a gown and make a
grand exit to and from a limo (with or without a feather
boa? - showing some legs and those heels!).
Exp have the driver 'assist you' in and out... but be
sure to tip him for this service!
Just remember you are a lady and enter and exit the limo
like one ... hmmm dramatic exits as a photo op? Just
don't go in and out like a guy with your butt hangin' in
the door as one crawls into their seat, ok?
The Limo Tour ends at 11pm, the same HH/Dinner Location
for a possible night cap at the same Bar or cafe, so
the cars will be right there.
One can then move on to whatever happens after 11pm?
One idea is using the HH and dinner at BB, grand entrance
into a limo at the drive through entrance of BB, and returning
there after the limo tour, with possible night cap at Hard Rock
Cafe which is quite close by...or then move to a 'Blues' bar
or dancing...what evers...
It will be a variation of the same yearly activities ...
The bad? Timing, coordinating, and of course, the cost.
. jus some thoughts...
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Thanks, Kumiko.
This idea is intriguing, I admit.
This would, in essence, combine the Prom activity with the
Limo Tour for a full "formal" evening.
There is one particular context in which I think this idea
would work. Of course we need feedback on this idea too.
It could work at the Bahama Breeze, but I might suggest
something a bit more upscale, such as Trevi.
We have tentatively (very) planned on a re-run of the Trevi
dinner prior to the Limo Tour. Nothing is in stone, and
Michelle has not as of this time confirmed her intent to
hostess the Trevi dinner this coming year.
Michelle?
I'm assuming that if we do Trevi, we can have the upstairs
area again, and I see no reason why we could not have a
prom-theme happy hour and dinner. Quality Social Time, with
a dress-up theme. I'm sure there would be room for Britney
and Kimberly to do their photo backdrop thing, and of
course there's the opportunity for a dressed-up group shot
in front of the fountain.
OTOH, I do think it would be workable at BB as well.
As for timing ...
Starting things at 5:00pm is probably too early. If you
remember, we pushed the HH and dinner on Wednesday 1/2
hour earlier than usual, and we had quite a few who
were very fashionably late. If the HH is part of the
"prom" theme, we want it at a time which will allow
time to get ready and get there.
We can tweak the exact timing should we decide to go
forward with this idea.
I also think it will be best to eliminate the "move"
between the HH and dinner portions. Moves take time
and generate complaints and fall-outs when they happen.
IOW, except for the limo tour stops, we should have all
of the "prom" things in the same venue.
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Formal affair and Open House:
Nora writes:
>Spoke to Amy today.
>She requested that you pencil in the Glamour Boutique open
>house for Thursday, 4/22. It will fit in with her being
>mistress of ceremonies for the NSD.
Done. Thanks. I'll use the times that we've used in the past.
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>Amy feels that the Formal would go best coupled with the
>Pity Party / Talent show at the Italian American club.
>There will be a DJ who can supply the necessary music and
>accompaniment that will be needed for both.
>She does need this to be confirmed on the agenda so she
>can work out the details with the Italian American club
>operators. I tend to agree with her as we have done the
>Bahama Breeze numerous times and it may be time to change
>to a new venue.
Thanks, Nora.
What this appears to propose is something of a combined
Pity Party and Prom/Formal for the final evening. Is this
what you and Amy have in mind?
We need comments on this one, gang! Sooner the better.
As of this day, hour, minute, and second, I don't think
we're anywhere close to a consensus on what we want to do
WRT the Prom/Formal or the closing evening. (Just look at
all of the various items above.) :)
To all, feedback on all of these ideas and proposals is
needed.
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Quiet evening and opener:
Sarona writes:
>>In any case, I think it's best for you to select a day now
>>and get it on the schedule.
>Agreed - Wednesday evening will be the best for "Quiet
>Evening at Home" as it is completely different than the
>Limo Tour. Also gives people enough time to confirm their
>reservations with a prepayment. (Lots of people reserve,
>not so many actually attend if not prepaid.) Please put
>me on the schedule for Wednesday.
Thanks, Sarona.
I'm going to break it up into a QEAH Dinner and subsequent
Pajama Party in order to make it sync as a second option
against the tentative dinner and Limo Tour on Wednesday.
I also might suggest that you reconsider prepayment. I think
it will help your turnout quite a bit if it can be in any
way avoided. Those who are shy of the public tend to be the
ones who are also shy of making contact and making such a
prepayment.
If you're concerned about fall-out, we should have enough
history with this type of activity to give you a fairly
close predicted turnout number.
>I'll mention the available changing room on the discussion list.
>(Mon, Tue, and Wed afternoons before other events of the evening)
Thanks. We do occasionally get queries about this, mostly
from locals who want to maintain a low profile, but every
so often from someone who is a bit shy of walking through
a hotel lobby and might need a less public place to change
on the first nights out.
We can mention in one of the mailings, as we approach DLV
time, that such a facility will be available on request.
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>>Coffee, as in no C2H5OH? Uh, if that's correct, I don't
>>think that would ever work for an opening mixer. :)
>Yes, ReJavanate is a coffee place, no alcohol. Sounds like
>it does not meet the criteria for an opening mixer.
Unfortunately I think that most any evening DLV social
activity needs to have the availability of adult beverages
to assure an optimal turnout.
Thanks for the suggestion, though. :)
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Working schedule:
Diva Las Vegas 2010 schedule
Tentative and subject to change
All times Pacific Daylight Time
Sunday, April 18:
10:00am: Religious services (Metropolitan Community Church) - sv
7:00pm: Dinner options (Various)
9:00pm: After-dinner common gathering (TBA) - mv
Monday, April 19:
10:30am: Makeover Tips with Stacey (Bare Escentuals) - mv
1:00pm: Lunch With Ginger (TBA) - ms
6:00pm: Happy Hour (TBA) - mv
7:00pm: Dinner (TBA) - mv
8:00pm: Welcome Meet and Greet (TBA) - mv
Tuesday, April 20:
10:30am: Makeover Tips with Stacey (Bare Escentuals) - mv
1:00pm: Lunch With Mary Beth (TBA) - ms
7:00pm: Murder Mystery Interactive Theater (tba) - sv
7:00pm: Eating Out Night (Various)
7:00pm: Milano's option (Milano's) - mv
8:30pm: Mainstream-Alternative Night (Various)
8:30pm: Big Show (TBA) - ms
8:30pm: Affordable Show (TBA) - ms
8:30pm: Pub Crawl (TBA) - sv
Wednesday, April 21:
1:00pm: Lunch With Ginger (TBA) - ms
6:00pm: Happy Hour (TBA) - ms
7:00pm: Dinner (TBA) - ms
9:30pm: Limousine Tour (TBA) - ms
Thursday, April 22:
1:00pm: Lunch With Ginger (TBA) - ms
5:00pm: Night Of The Soiled Doves (CR) - mv
6:00pm: Local Happy Hour (TBA) - ms
7:00pm: Local Dinner (TBA) - ms
Friday, April 23:
1:00pm: Lunch With Ginger (TBA) - ms
6:00pm: Happy Hour (TBA) - ms
7:00pm: Final Dinner (TBA) - ms
9:00pm: After-dinner options (Various)
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