From: Annie (annie@geekbabe.com)
Date: Thu May 08 2003 - 11:05:21 CDT
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Org List
Survey
Dress items
No-shows
2003 Comments
Survey
Administrivia
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Org List:
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Survey:
All of the changes and additions are now in the survey and it's ready to
go. If anybody would like to take it "for real" this time it's at:
http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/dlv2003/dlv2003survey.html
I'm hoping we will get a very good response rate. Last year about half
of those present took the survey, and I would like to see at least that
good a response rate this time.
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Dress items:
Aiko writes:
>Rosada, you definitely were NOT one of the offenders of the recommended
>dress code. As a matter of fact, you set a very good example of
>appropriate dress, behavior, comportment, and blended quite well, along
>with your beautiful cousin. Thank you and your cousin for attending and
>for your input.
>Using one of our sisters words: "pictures show everything, and hide
>nothing".
>There happen to be examples in Annie's staging site. A 40+/200+
>"hottie" in a sleeveless/micro-mini would attract attention from a
>blind man. Ironically, there are some of the DLV attendees who are
>under 5'7", under 130, and around 30, who could actually wear that, but
>choose to dress more conservatively, and not draw adverse attention.
In fairness to all, most of the people present dressed nicely. In the
photos that came in, the examples of appropriate dress overshadowed
those of inappropriate dress overwhelmingly, but unfortunately the few
bad examples will attract a disproportionite share of attention.
I do think we need to continue this topic and get input from as many of
you as possible. I've noticed several of you are conspicuously silent on
this issue. Remember, it's ok to agree to disagree, and that all
viewpoints are valid and welcome.
Comments?
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No-shows:
Monique writes:
>>>is there a policy in DLV where you can refuse registration to
>>>those people who have a continual habit of no shows ...
>>do think we have to cut some slack with our people. I would rather have
>>somebody show up the fifth year after registering and no-showing 4
>I have to agree with Annie on this topic... DLV is a vacation and there
>may be circumstances where a sister simply has to back out at the last
>minute - perhaps even while in Vegas attending DLV and having to
>return home due to work or family issues. We're not in the business of
>blackballing anyone.
I agree that there are some circumstances where cancelling without
notice may have to be done. I always want to leave the door open for
those who have no-showed or bailed in the past to join us in the future.
>To borrow a statement that Aiko said earlier this week, the no-show
>factor is something that is a part of our community and we're going to
>have to deal with it. And as Annie has previously stated, and also per
>our conversation the last nite of DLV'03, we've got enuf stats now to
>pretty well predict (within a couple of standard deviations, IMO) just
>who the no-shows will be that sign up for activities.
I also think that we will be able to predict next year who will most
likely show and most likely not show. We can use these in adjusting our
headcount projections that we need for reserving seats, limos, tickets,
etc.
Our vendors seem to be quite flexible. Matt at David Saxe (Showgirls Of
Magic) was very cool as to not knowing the final headcount until just
before showtime. The limo company seemed to be fine adding or dropping
cars as needed, and both Sasha's and Carluccio's were fine with only an
approximate headcount. I'm sure they deal with other groups that have
approximate headcounts regularly.
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2003 Comments:
Kate writes:
>Never having been out for a daytime excursion I was not quite sure how
>to dress for the Shopping trip so I decided on Skirt and blouse with a
>pendant which worked out well as the others were dressed similar.
>"Whew chose the right stuff to wear". I wonder if women go through this
>too? All the girls looked great and there were no unapropriately
>dressed people there, Except for one fool who couldn't take the "pre DLV
>ORG advice" and wear comfortable walking shoes. (My feet are still
>telling me how wrong I was!) We were just like a group of women out
>for a sunny afternoons shopping and had no incidents nor lewd comments
>to contend with. I would like to recomend it for future DLV'ers as a
>way to spend a relaxing afternoon away from the hectic rush we so often
>get into when in Vegas.
>For those interested Primm Valley was quiet at 11am and although it is
>far from being a Discount Mall it was a nice experience as you will see
>from the pics taken in the parking lot afterwards when they show up on
>the albums.
>I do hope the Shoppers enjoyed the scenic detour we took of the highways
>and byways of Nevada on route to Primm. Lake Mead can be very
>picturesque this time of the year I think. Just be thankfull I still
>don't drive on the wrong side of the road! Had a great time and made
>some terrific new friends. Hope to see you all again next year.
Thanks, Kate. I'm forwarding this to the discussion list as well.
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Survey:
>'If you stayed at one of our suggested hotels........"
> I would suggest that you might want to add a drop down (255 character
>box) for those that did not stay at the DLV'03 suggested hotels. Might
>be interesting to know those that stayed elsewhere what their
>experience was for the future.
>'Did you personally have any public restroom issues while attending DLV
>2003?' I would suggest that you might want to add a check box "Did not
>go to a public restroom enfemme', or something to that effect.
Let me add an "Other hotel, please specify" to those items and another
question prior to the existing restroom one.
After those changes, let's let the survey go out as is unless there are
overwhelming needs to make additional changes.
Thanks to everybody who helped to test this.
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