dlvorg La Cage, web, prizes, and a concern of mine ...

Subject: dlvorg La Cage, web, prizes, and a concern of mine ...
From: Annie (annie)
Date: Wed Mar 06 2002 - 08:22:51 CST

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Org List
La Cage
DLV on the web
A concern of mine
Prize(s) and samples
Summary Schedule of Activities
Tentative DLV 2001 schedule
Administrivia
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La Cage:

>>>re la cage.. according to the latest show info available to locals la
>>>cage is still one show a night.. i will call and find out if this has
>>>changed..

>>Web site today said two shows. If you could double-check we would
>>appreciate it.

>This week's Showbiz says two shows nightly, 7 and 10.

Thanks. They may have recently changed back to two shows.
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DLV on the web:

Yvonne writes:

>I thought this was interesting....,.

>I'm using the Internet Explorer 5.5 search function, which was using
>MSN Search....

>The key words I put in was " las vegas transgendered'.

>The first on the list was : Transgendered Guide to Las Vegas

>But the second was: "Diva Las Vegas, Now and Then"

Actually both of the above are within the main DLV site.

>I think DIVA is getting up there on the web search engines!!! I've
>been able to repeat the search... please check if it works for you,
>BEFORE you post this on the newsletter! I would hate to see that it
>doesn't work for others...

Yes, we are up there quite high on almost every index and search engine
there is. We've been on the web since the spring of 1997. This is also
without stuffing any keywords, spoofing the spiders, or (heaven forbid)
paying for placement or position.

As I've pointed out before, I know there are other small to medium size
groups doing more or less what we do, sharing a vacation in LV, but we
seem to be the one with the best footprint on the net.

Here's yesterday's referral report from the webstats bot. It shows where
our identifyable referrals were coming from. Note that we are well
linked, and we get hits from web pages, newsgroups, web groups, search
engines, web directories, etc. in a very good mix. You can see the
search parameters in some of the referrals below ...

(motto stuff moved to the main list)
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A concern of mine:

I'm not by any means pulling the alarm just yet, but I want to give
everybody a heads-up so if this happens we won't get caught in a
proverbial chaotic fire drill trying to work things out.

My concern is the maximum number of people the current model of DLV,
specifically what we have planned for DLV 2002, will handle.

Reason for my concern is that the registrations are coming in at such
a rate, and that rate itself seems to be increasing.

I would like to have a discussion -- which does not have to be the
number one item on our plate -- and a contingency plan, which I hope is
not needed, to deal with an anticipated crowd that is larger than we
think can be handled.

I would like to begin the discussion by assuming a few tautologies:

1. There exists a practical limit to the number of people that the
current model of DLV will support. This limit may not be clearly
defined, but it does exist.

2. It will be too late in the game to radically change the model of DLV
2002 if and when it is known that an overwhelming crowd will attend.

3. Our exact headcount cannot be known exactly until DLV happens, but we
will have a reasonable degree of accuracy this year in predicting our
final turnout.

4. To allow DLV to attract a crowd far in excess of what can be handled
would indeed be performing a disservice, and not a service to the t*
community.

I would like to add my comments about each ...

1. Limits. We can discuss this, but I would say that our current model
would reach this limit somewhere between 100 and 150 people. Of course
each venue and each activity has its own set of limits, but as a whole
I think the overall limit of the model of DLV is within this range.

Comments?

2. Timing. It's my opinion that we could not, and should not change the
model for DLV 2002, and that any discussion of a major change be held
for possible consideration in planning DLV 2003 and beyond. Another
tautology is that we lack the resources ($$$, human, and time) to
procure larger facilities in which to hold a much larger group,
should such a large group actually materialize.

We cannot assume we will have an overwhelming crowd (and tear down and
rebuild for it), but we cannot assume we will not have such a crowd.

3. Real-world headcount. My gut feeling is that we will have a total
body count between 70 and 100, with no single activity representing all
of them. That's what I feel in the gut, reinforced by what we've seen in
the past regarding such things as mailing list count and yearly history
of growth.

Looking at the numbers, we broke 100 today, but had one cancellation, so
we are currently sitting at 99 on the board. (An off-line note indicated
another cancellation is pending, but ...) Even with a phenomenally high
no-show rate of 50%, this translates to a minimum crowd of at least 50,
assuming registrations fall over and die tomorrow. We have almost two
months to go at this point, and the registrations are not slowing down.

With our current rate of registrations, it is indeed possible for our
registration count to hit the 300 mark or beyond. Even with a very
drastic no-show rate, we could have well over 150 bodies to deal with.

4. I see having no plan, or a "if it happens it happens" plan not to be
an option. I could see us falling out of favor with some venues should
we exceed their fire code limit, overflowing our food places, etc., and
in general disappointing and p*ssing off people who expected an
enjoyable DLV.
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I want to see any plan we agree upon to be driven by watchful waiting,
meaning keeping a close watch on our registration count and our expected
headcount, using such techniques as assertive reconfirmation for those
less likely to attend, to keep the two numbers (registration count and
expected headcount) as close as possible.

I see the following items as possible elements of a plan should our
crowd appear to be increasing beyond limits:

1. Suspending registrations. If our anticipated headcount exceeds what
we think we can handle, we turn off registrations until the number drops
due to cancellations or failure to reconfirm.

2. Waiting list. Perhaps as an alternative to #1. The registration
routines actually have this capability. As others cancel or fail to
reconfirm, earliest ones waiting get bumped from "waiting" to "ok".

3. Stopping registrations hard and fast at some time. "We're full, see
you next year." This is what was done at Fall Harvest 2000. There was
some bitching about it, and, as some know, next year never came.

4. Not limiting registrations or headcount, but declaring various
activities "full" according to what we think they can handle.

Again, as of this day, hour, minute, and second, I don't think such a
plan will be necessary this year, but I want to be sure we've thought
of it, and agree on actions, should it happen.

Personally, I think that since we are now less than two months out, it
is only practical to control this at the ingress end of the process,
which in our case is the registration/confirmation.

Comments?
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Prize(s) and samples:

This is my correspondence with Laura, the travel agent in Canada.

+>One of the people I booked works in the perfume/cosmetics industry.

+>She's offered to supply samples for all DLV attendees as well as larger
+>gifts for prizes for anything you need prizes for.

+>Not sure of quality or size of what she's offering but don't think this
+>is an effort to sell anything on her part. I believe she's just trying
+>to be nice and break the ice with the girls. She doesn't even really
+>know the people she's going to DLV with nor us her.

+>She said after I felt you out on interest in this she'd be happy to deal
+>directly with you via email and fill in details and arrange shipping.

+I don't see any problem with this at all. Mindy, who is running the golf
+outing, is looking for prizes, so this may work well. I'm copying this to
+our organizers list to keep them in the loop. If one of you will describe
+the prize item(s) I'll forward a note to the golf list. Thanks.
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Summary Schedule of Activities:

Date Day Time Activity
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Apr 30 Tue Morning
Afternoon Milano's Welcome Dinner
Evening Pre-DLV get-together

May 01 Wed All day Blond Hair Day
            Morning
            Afternoon Hidden Woman Open House
            Evening Dinner and Welcome celebration
            After Karaoke, Goodtimes
            Later Slumber Party (and swap meet)

May 02 Thu Morning Air tours
            Afternoon Glamour Boutique Open House
                       -or- Swimming party
            Evening LaFemme (production show) MGM Grand
            After Limo tour

May 03 Fri Morning Golf (See notes about golf mailing list)
            Afternoon Dinner (Cafe Luna)
            Evening Goodtimes Annual Mixer
            Late Night Dance Night

May 04 Sat Morning
            Afternoon Mall Crawl
            Evening La Cage (Frank Marino) Riviera
            After Cafe Luna and club tour

May 05 Sun Morning
            Afternoon Side trip, Valley of Fire
                       -or- English High Tea
            Evening Buffet dinner, Palace Station
                       Farewell Get-together

This schedule is tentative and not complete, subject to change.
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Tentative DLV 2001 schedule:

as of Mon Mar 4 22:59:46 CST 2002

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Tuesday, April 30:

Activity Name : Welcome dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 5:00pm
Location or Venue : Milano's
Expected Dress : Casual (moderately dressy ok)
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $15 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 30
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Casual Italian, American, Greek, Mexican
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Activity Name : Pre-DLV get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : Flex
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : One one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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Wednesday, May 1:

Activity Name : Hidden Woman Open House
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, PM
Location or Venue : Hidden Woman Boutique
Expected Dress : About anything
Expected Cost (If any) : $10 for wig instruction
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Wig instruction optional
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Activity Name : Dinner and Welcome Celebration
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, Ev
Location or Venue : Hamburger Mary's
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $12 per person plus drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 60
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments :
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Activity Name : Karaoke
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, later
Location or Venue : Goodtimes
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : Food and munchies on one's own.
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 70
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : After Welcome Celebration
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Activity Name : Slumber Party
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, Late
Location or Venue : Residence Inn
Expected Dress : Whatever
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 30
Organiser Required and who : Yes, LeeAnna
Comments :
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Thursday, May 2:

Activity Name : Air tours
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, AM
Location or Venue : Henderson Executive Airport
Expected Dress : Casual, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 3 6 9 12 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Densie, Gina
Comments :
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Activity Name : Glamour Boutique Open House
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, Aft
Location or Venue : Glamour Boutique, 714 E Sahara
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for purchases
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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Activity Name : Swimming party
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, PM
Location or Venue : Mindy's
Expected Dress : Casual/beach/swim
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 20
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Mindy
Comments : Food and drink
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Activity Name : LaFemme
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, Ev
Location or Venue : MGM Grand
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : $49 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) :
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments : Limo tour to follow
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Activity Name : Limo Tour
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, after show
Location or Venue : Las Vegas Strip
Expected Dress : Nice :)
Expected Cost (If any) : $15 pp
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 7, 14, 21 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Aiko, Yvonne
Comments : Delmar, etc.
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Friday, May 3:

Activity Name : Golf
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 10:00am
Location or Venue : Golf course {duh}
Expected Dress : Casual or athletic, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 4 8 12 16 20 24 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Mindy
Comments : Details TBA
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Activity Name : Dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 6:00pm?
Location or Venue : Cafe Luna
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for dinner and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Leah
Comments : Time may be adjusted
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Activity Name : Annual Mixer
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : Goodtimes
Expected Dress : Casual to modrerately dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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Activity Name : Dance Night
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 11:30pm
Location or Venue : Gipsy, et. al.
Expected Dress : Whatever
Expected Cost (If any) : Cover and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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Saturday, May 4:

Activity Name : Mall Crawl
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, 12:00n
Location or Venue : Various
Expected Dress : Casual, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for what is purchased
Maximum Numbers (If any) : None
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Annie
Comments : Belz, Boulevard, possibly Primm
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Activity Name : FI Show, La Cage
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, Ev
Location or Venue : Riviera
Expected Dress : Nice casual to very dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : $39 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : Ca 100
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Annie
Comments : Frank Marino
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Activity Name : Cafe Luna and Club Tour
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, Ev
Location or Venue : Cafe Luna, et. al.
Expected Dress : About anything
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own food, drink, cover
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Meet at Cafe Luna following La Cage
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Sunday, May 5:

Activity Name : Side trip
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su, PM
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Casual, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : Possible donation for park fee
Maximum Numbers (If any) : Capacity of vehicles
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Annie
Comments : Valley of Fire
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Activity Name : High Tea
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su, Aft
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Nice
Expected Cost (If any) : $15 or so
Maximum Numbers (If any) :
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Mindy
Comments : A rawther special afternoon
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Activity Name : Buffet Dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su, 5:30pm
Location or Venue : Palace Station
Expected Dress : Casual recommended
Expected Cost (If any) : $7.95 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Meet at top of escalator, 5:30pm
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Activity Name : Farewell Get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su Ev
Location or Venue : Flex
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On ones own for drinks and whatever
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 120
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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