Subject: dlvorg Luna, Saturday, laundry, etc. ...
From: Annie (annie)
Date: Mon Mar 04 2002 - 13:19:47 CST
In this mailing:
Org List
Laundry list
Headcounts
Blonde and Luna
ID's
Luna and Timing of Frank's Show
La Femme
Summary Schedule of Activities
Tentative DLV 2001 schedule
Administrivia
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Laundry list:
A few items here that need clarification and maybe discussion.
1. Swimming party. Mindy, is this a "go" or still a maybe? If so, what
date/time?
2. Slumber party. Is the "swap meet" thing (still) part of this? If
so, we want to announce it. Leeanna?
3. Golf. Mindy, is Las Vegas Golf definite as the location? I need to
put this on the map if it is.
4. English High Tea. Mindy, do you have a location for this? Again, I
need to put this on the map and write a quick directions note.
5. DLV activity headcounts. I'm writing the screen for the activity
headcount responses. I've included the following items as those which
we will need a semi-accurate headcount for. If I'm missing anything,
please let me know.
. Slumber party
. Wig instruction
. Air tours
. LaFemme
. Limo tour
. Friday dinner
. La Cage
. English High Tea
Any others? If anybody wants to take a look at the screen, which will be a
clickable link from individual e-mails, you can test with this one:
http://www.geekbabe.com/cgi-bin/dlv/dlvconf.cgi?12345-67890
This will appear to pull up my name, but you can feel free to play around
with it as it is a test. (Yes, I know Carluccio's is on the list, I'll
change that if necessary when the final venue is set.)
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Headcounts:
>>I'm toying with the idea of stating that the headcount survey is not
>>optional, with a few increasingly assertive reminders to defecate or
>>abdicate for those who do not respond.
>In my humble opinion, those who don't respond should be cancelled
>anyway.
>>I think we can safely say that somebody who does not respond in any
>>way to three requests for a headcount will not show up.
>I wouldn't give them three chances. If their not going to respond
>I can't see them reserving hotel and air tickets either.
I want to give everybody a fair chance, and also realize that some of
our people will honestly space off the first note and reminders in the
weekly mailings. Here's what I'm planning ... About 3 weeks out, send
out the first headcount request with a "Response requested" note in the
subject. About a week after that, those who have not responded get a
"Reminder, response required" note. Maybe 5-7 days later for those who
still have not responded, "FINAL REQUEST, YOU MUST RESPOND, YOUR DLV
CANCELLATION IS PENDING".
I'm thinking also that for the mailing prior to this, the first and only
item will be a brief list of the hoops the people need to jump through
prior to DLV. We now have a good handle on how many people actually are
reading the mailings in depth. I'm sure most people at least skim them
for items they find of interest, but ...
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Blonde and Luna:
>Hey! What's all this about us "old" broads avoiding platinum wigs?? I
>just got one! LOL. Oh well..........
Uh ... I didn't say that, did I?
>Yes, blonde is a very different look......I was totally surprised at
>the difference of how I looked in an auburn wig and then in a ash
>blonde wig....couldn't believe it was me! I have shown the pictures to
>friends and they agree. Hint......they make you look years younger
>too!
Well, that's what we're gonna find out. I'm willing to give it a shot,
and the more I think of it, a professional makeup job is in order, even
if it's for a Wednesday nite.
>(If you keep the following pics on the org list only you can post them
>for comparison if you want......would love to see EVERYONE blonde that
>night.....no biggie if you don't)
>Auburn:
>http://natasha38.botbuilders.com/picture2.jpg
>Ash blonde with highlights:
>http://natasha38.botbuilders.com/Leah3.jpg
(Note that I have not been able to pull these up. Leah says they may
be down at times. Leah needs a geekbabe.com page. :)
>OK, we'll stick with Luna if that is what the feedback indicates.....at
>least we have options. Luna is a nice room also and I am sure the DQ's
>getting ready for the show will mingle a little too.
Question? Do you mean stick with Luna for Friday dinner, or stick with
Luna for a Saturday after-show meeting place or both?
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ID's:
>Geez....just remembered something I have been wanting to mention for
>weeks now and keep forgetting so here it is....lol
>I am sure all the girls will carry ID but just as a disclaimer you may
>want to mention that in some places it may be mandatory for
>admittance..... Goodtimes is the only definite one I know of but there
>may be others......they are very strict about it too.
Goodtimes? Is this something new? I've been going there off and on for
over 5 years now and never been carded there. I know there was one place
that carded me, but I forget which it was. I'm sure it was not
Goodtimes.
LOL ... I don't think I could pass for under 21 if I >TRIED<!
But that is a good point, to remind people to carry legal ID.
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Luna and Timing of Frank's Show:
Tina writes:
>OK, let me see if I understand this Luna question. We're actually
>looking at it for 2 separate situations:
>1). Friday for dinner before the Goodtimes Annual Mixer and
>2). for a Saturday night social place after Frank's LaCage show
That is the way I understand it as well. (see above)
>As I understand the description, Luna has only beer and wine, no mixed
>drinks, but does have a nice dinner menu with normal restaurant type
>tables (i.e. seated dining, no bar for standing at). Is that about the
>situation?
That is the way I understand it as well, but I have never been there.
>(Based on the above info, note that I'm about to reverse my previous
>endorsement of Luna for Sat night.) Then the answer seems clear to me:
>Keep Luna for Friday night dinner. The restaurant reviews say it has
>good food and a nice atmosphere. There'll be plenty of mixed drinks
>available at Goodtimes after dinner. Find someplace else for the main
>Saturday late night social gathering place.
For Friday evening dinner, personally, I don't see b/w-only as a deal
breaker, or even as a strong negative. I can see strong points with
Luna and strong points with Carluccio's, but none that make me favor
one over the other. I'll go with whatever Leah and the group decides
to go with for Friday dinner.
For Saturday, however, I suggested Luna due to the fact that I
understood part of the group would be meeting there whether or not we
designated it as our "official" after-show place or not. Primary reason
was to keep as much of the group together as we can. Secondary reason is
that I (and others) probably will not have dinner before La Cage (see
timing notes below) and it would be a great to get some food that
evening.
However, if we do the late La Cage show ...
>The drag show at Luna on Sat night had sounded like fun, but if it's
>really just a restaurant and not a bar, then I would think that we'd
>have trouble squeezing in a large crowd and would displace their normal
>late dinner crowd, which wouldn't win us friends in their management
>team. With no expensive mixed drinks, you would have to drink a lot of
>beer to make up for their lost dinner tabs. (How late is this place
>open on Sat night?) You definitely need a bar serving mixed drinks
>with space to walk around in on Saturday night.
>Of course, I should point out that I have a less than perfect
>attendance record for attending DLV dinners, so I'll be interested to
>hear the opinions of more committed gourmets.
Ladies? (Gentlemen?) Comments?
>Re Saturday late night social place, we'll already have been in the
>triangle district for Friday night's Dance Night, which traditionally
>starts at Gipsy, sometimes has gone on to Angles (now ICON, I think).
>Would it make sense to try someplace else on Saturday, like back at the
>Commercial Center?
>How would Spotlight be for this type of fun? I think I've been there
>once, but can't remember it. Need input from local LV girls. Assuming
>its an OK place, Spotlight would make a good jumping off point for
>those who want to have an adventure at other nearby places (LV Lounge
>for the slightly tacky, Keys for those who want to help it reclaim its
>GLBT flavor, some other places in the Center whose names I can't
>remember) during the wee night hours.
Comments?
>As I recall the selection criteria, some people were wanting a place
>without too much loud music so that they could socialize and carry on a
>conversation, which would tend to mean a non-dance club.
Or at least the option of a place where it is not too loud.
>Personally, I find it hard to visualize such a semi-quiet place on a
>Saturday night. Sounds like we need a fern bar kind of place. If it's
>late enough, Keys always got quiet after midnight or so, whenever their
>live entertainment ended.
If I may digress, if you remember at Pinkfest last fall, the first place
we went after dinner was very loud, but there wasn't really anybody
there, so we lasted maybe one drink. The next place we went to was
totally packed, and had live entertainment, but we found a place by the
bar in the back where we could both talk and enjoy the entertainment,
and we ended up staying there for hours. If there's someplace where they
have entertainment and is not disco volume, that would work fine.
>Even with their so-called straight
>orientation now, I find it hard to believe they would turn away a pack
>of cash paying customers (besides, that would probably be illegal).
I dunno. IANAL, but from what those who know Nevada law tell me, it's
not nearly as liberal as most states regarding this. I understand that
for most private property, your right to be there is "at will" of the
management, either for the property as a whole (casino, bar, etc.) or a
portion of the property, such as a restroom.
>Seems like a lot of this is dependent on whether we go to the early
>show (7 PM) or late show (10 PM) at LaCage.
{Double-checking timing ... click ... click} They had told me (the
ubiquitous "they") that since 9-11, La Cage was one show nightly, but
as Tina says, and the web just confirmed, they are back to two shows
nightly.
>In the past, we've always gone to the early show on Saturday night, to
>facilitate getting to RHPS. I notice that no time is currently posted
>in this year's schedule, Since we're not doing RHPS this year, we could
>go to the late show (10 PM), and then on to the late night gathering
>place (Spotlight, Keys, whatever).
That is very true. Since RHPS is currently off the plate, I see either
show as an option. (We did do the late(er) show in 2000.)
>We'd probably be arriving there just before midnight. This timetable
>might help alleviate some of the crowd and noise problems. Regardless
>of all that, I would personally prefer to attend the late show anyway.
>I have to start getting ready about 3 hours in advance, so that would
>mean starting at 4 PM for a 7 PM show. I just hate that. What do you
>think about going to the late show at LaCage this year?
Personally, I see advantages and disadvantages of both, and we need to
discuss, reach a conclusion, and, as we usually do, walk away with a
warm fuzzy feeling. :)
I'm always telling people to allow four hours of time prior to the
shows, which has meant wrapping up our Saturday afternoon activities
toward the middle of the afternoon when we do an early show. Late show
would alleviate that.
In 2000, we did the late (9:30 then) La Cage show, and we wound up the
Saturday afternoon thing with the buffet at Palace Station and there was
still time to get ready. There was, however, a time crunch for some of
the people going to RHPS.
Another thing to consider is that we do not currently have a "big gun"
activity for Saturday afternoon. I'm expecting a moderate, but not huge,
turnout for the Mall Crawl, which as you may remember I intended to be
a second-track type of thing. Doing the late show would allow time for
such a big gun.
Comments, ladies? (Gentlemen?)
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La Femme:
Mindy writes:
>have whoever is in charge of the la feme show get in touch with me.. i
>have some info re group discounts ect..
Monique is the one who will hostess (collect the $$$ and buy the tickets),
but please share any discount information with this group, since any
change in plans or logistics will be a group decision by all of us.
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Summary Schedule of Activities:
Date Day Time Activity
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Apr 30 Tue Morning
Afternoon Milano's Welcome Dinner
Evening Pre-DLV get-together
May 01 Wed All day Blond Hair Day
Morning
Afternoon Hidden Woman Open House
Evening Dinner and Welcome celebration
After Karaoke, Goodtimes
Later Slumber Party (and swap meet)
May 02 Thu Morning Air tours
Afternoon Glamour Boutique Open House
Evening LaFemme (production show) MGM Grand
After Limo tour
May 03 Fri Morning Golf (See notes about golf mailing list)
Afternoon Dinner (5:00pm)
Evening Goodtimes Annual Mixer
Late Night Dance Night
May 04 Sat Morning
Afternoon Mall Crawl
Evening La Cage (Frank Marino) Riviera
After Cafe Luna and club tour
May 05 Sun Morning
Afternoon Side trip, Valley of Fire
-or- English High Tea
Evening Buffet dinner, Palace Station
Farewell Get-together
This schedule is tentative and not complete, subject to change.
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Tentative DLV 2001 schedule:
as of Thu Feb 28 21:42:19 CST 2002
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Tuesday, April 30:
Activity Name : Welcome dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 5:00pm
Location or Venue : Milano's
Expected Dress : Casual (moderately dressy ok)
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $15 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 30
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Casual Italian, American, Greek, Mexican
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Activity Name : Pre-DLV get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : Flex
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : One one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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Wednesday, May 1:
Activity Name : Hidden Woman Open House
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, PM
Location or Venue : Hidden Woman Boutique
Expected Dress : About anything
Expected Cost (If any) : $10 for wig instruction
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Wig instruction optional
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Activity Name : Dinner and Welcome Celebration
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, Ev
Location or Venue : Hamburger Mary's
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $12 per person plus drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 60
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments :
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Activity Name : Karaoke
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, later
Location or Venue : Goodtimes
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : Food and munchies on one's own.
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 70
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : After Welcome Celebration
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Activity Name : Slumber Party
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, Late
Location or Venue : Residence Inn
Expected Dress : Whatever
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 30
Organiser Required and who : Yes, LeeAnna
Comments :
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Thursday, May 2:
Activity Name : Air tours
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, AM
Location or Venue : Henderson Executive Airport
Expected Dress : Casual, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 3 6 9 12 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Densie, Gina
Comments :
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Activity Name : Glamour Boutique Open House
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, Aft
Location or Venue : Glamour Boutique, 714 E Sahara
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for purchases
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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Activity Name : LaFemme
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, Ev
Location or Venue : MGM Grand
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : $49 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) :
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments : Limo tour to follow
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Activity Name : Limo Tour
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, after show
Location or Venue : Las Vegas Strip
Expected Dress : Nice :)
Expected Cost (If any) : $15 pp
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 7, 14, 21 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Aiko, Yvonne
Comments : Delmar, etc.
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Friday, May 3:
Activity Name : Golf
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 10:00am
Location or Venue : Golf course {duh}
Expected Dress : Casual or athletic, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 4 8 12 16 20 24 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Mindy
Comments : Details TBA
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Activity Name : Dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 5:00pm
Location or Venue : TBA
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for dinner and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Leah
Comments : New venue search in progress
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Activity Name : Annual Mixer
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : Goodtimes
Expected Dress : Casual to modrerately dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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Activity Name : Dance Night
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 11:30pm
Location or Venue : Gipsy, et. al.
Expected Dress : Whatever
Expected Cost (If any) : Cover and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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Saturday, May 4:
Activity Name : Mall Crawl
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, 12:00n
Location or Venue : Various
Expected Dress : Casual, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for what is purchased
Maximum Numbers (If any) : None
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Annie
Comments : Belz, Boulevard, possibly Primm
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Activity Name : FI Show, La Cage
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, Ev
Location or Venue : Riviera
Expected Dress : Nice casual to very dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : $39 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : Ca 100
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Annie
Comments : Frank Marino
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Activity Name : Cafe Luna and Club Tour
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, Ev
Location or Venue : Cafe Luna, et. al.
Expected Dress : About anything
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own food, drink, cover
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Meet at Cafe Luna following La Cage
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Sunday, May 5:
Activity Name : Side trip
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su, PM
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Casual, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : Possible donation for park fee
Maximum Numbers (If any) : Capacity of vehicles
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Annie
Comments : Valley of Fire
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Activity Name : High Tea
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su, Aft
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Nice
Expected Cost (If any) : $15 or so
Maximum Numbers (If any) :
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Mindy
Comments : A rawther special afternoon
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Activity Name : Buffet Dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su, 5:30pm
Location or Venue : Palace Station
Expected Dress : Casual recommended
Expected Cost (If any) : $7.95 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Meet at top of escalator, 5:30pm
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Activity Name : Farewell Get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su Ev
Location or Venue : Flex
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On ones own for drinks and whatever
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 120
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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