Subject: dlvorg Hotels, Keys news, security, stuff ...
From: Annie (annie)
Date: Sun Dec 09 2001 - 00:12:19 CST
In this mailing:
Hotels
Some bad news
Posters and flyers
Mt Charleston feedback
Pajama party
Golf Gambling etc.
Security again
Misc. stuff
Security
Gambling
Golf, Security, abbreviation
Summary Schedule of Activities
Tentative DLV 2001 schedule
Administrivia
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Hotels:
We already had our yearly iteration of hotel discussion last summer, but
now it's time to call the question, since people will want to start
making plans right after the holidays.
I'm proposing again that we name the Sahara and the Imperial Palace as
our "suggested" hotels, and as always, we mention to our people that
they are free to stay anywhere they choose.
If there are no objections, I would like to put this item into the
mailing that will go out right after the first of the year.
Comments? Objections? Speak now or ...
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Some bad news:
Leah writes:
>Have some potentially bad news.....Keys has been closed for the last
>two days that I am aware of. I have no other details at this time ...
>i.e. whether or not it is sold or bankrupt etc. I know the owner
>recently sold his other restaurant.
That sux :(
>I will try and get hold of Troy at his production company and see what
>I can find out.
Yes, please let us know anything you can find out.
>Let's just hope that it re-opens in the same style soon.
I sure hope so. Keys is the all-time fave of the DLV crowd.
>Mindy and I will put our heads together if need be for an alternative
>for Keys if it doesn't re-open.
Thanks. Please be thinking of alternatives, but let's think positive!
>A Hidden Woman is open, and not far from Glamour Boutique. It is in
>the strip mall behind Tony Roma's. Mindy was in recently and they are
>still getting situated at this point.
I hope these two will become good clean competitors. I'm sure there is
enough business for both of them.
>We also talked about Carluccio's. Assuming a big crowd, it will be
>hell on the wait staff making out individual checks so I was thinking
>maybe a price fixe menu of maybe 4 items at an agreed price?
It's your baby. :) I'm sure our crowd will be happy. As for crowd, we
will have the option of calling for a headcount if you need it,
otherwise we can take the registration count for those who will be in
that day, add a fudge factor, and get a close approximate count.
>Maybe a small appetizer party beforehand with cash bar? I would like
>your thoughts on the appetizer party........personally I think it's a
>fun idea for the girls to be able to mingle and chat a little rather
>than just running in and looking for a seat.
Yes, I tend to agree. I say go for it. Comments?
>Mindy knows the menu well and thinks the whole thing could be done with
>tip <on your own for booze> for around $15-18 per person.
That is actually quite reasonable for a nice dinner.
>At any rate, Mindy and I will probably go over for dinner soon and
>we'll kick it around with them and have more options later. For all we
>know, they may prefer separate checks for a big group.
Ok, please keep us informed as to how things are going.
>I am really bummed out about Keys, it's my favorite place in town.
>Really hope it opens again and I will certainly be on top of it and let
>you know.
I'm not happy about it either. I've always enjoyed the place and I will
miss it if it does not reopen. Please let us know as soon as you hear
anything. Hopefully the closure is only temporary.
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Posters and flyers:
There have been a few people who have volunteered to display posters for
DLV 2002.
I have a mock-up on line at:
http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/dlv2000/dlvposter.html
If anybody knows of any place that is appropriate to display these, I'll
get them to you. I'm making them in two sizes, one approximately 8x10"
and another about 12x15". Send me a snailmail address and what size and
how many.
Only thing I ask, that is that they be used if I send them to you.
If you would like to print these out yourself, let me know and I will
send you the appropriate .psd, .bmp, or .gif file. Be warned, these are
very "heavy". :)
I've also got a smaller version 5.5x8" which would be appropriate for a
small display or for a flyer.
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Mt Charleston feedback:
I recently posted the questions in the a.v.lv newsfroup and received
the following:
>>1. About how long does it take to get there?
>Depends on what part. But count on 30-45 minutes.
>>2. Assuming we're not gonna be staying there to ski or whatever, is there
>>anything interesting to see/do up there, like is there a good view of
>>Las Vegas, lodge, shops, restaurant or whatever up there?
>Mt. Charleston Lodge is the only thing really up there. The rest are
>trails and houses. You can have a fine dinner there and snowmobile on
>their golf course. A lot of really good trails though, Border's has
>books on where the trails are.
>>3. Anything else interesting along the way up there?
>The world's largest ball of earwax. That is to say, not much. Texas
>Station and Fiesta are right off the freeway on your drive down. So,
>if you want to know what Texas is like or what a Fiesta is like, you
>can go to those places. (Good buffet at Texas Station).
... and ...
>>1. About how long does it take to get there?
>depends on from where, but about 30-60 minutes
>>2. Assuming we're not gonna be staying there to ski or whatever, is there
>>anything interesting to see/do up there, like is there a good view of
>>Las Vegas, lodge, shops, restaurant or whatever up there?
>dinner at the lodge is nice, there's lots of great hiking- but it's a
>bit cold for that right now, you can drive up kyle canyon, along the
>ridge, and come back down lee canyon - It's a nice drive and there are
>some good views along the ridge route, there is a turnout where people
>would sometimes watch the above ground nuclear tests from that has a
>good view. Spring and Summer are better times to visit if you want to
>hike. Branch Whitney's www.hikinglasvegas.com site has lots of info on
>Mt. Charleston.
>I like seeing how quickly it changes from desert, to Joshua Trees, to
>Pine Trees as you drive up. Other than that and skiing there isn't
>much else to do there.
... and another response just saying ...
>It's high and hard.
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Pajama party:
>>>Getting excited about DLV 2002.... Seems to be coming up fast.... Would
>>>anyone be interested in a Baby Doll Pajama Party?
>>Ladies? (Gentlemen?)
>Yes, I would! Sounds like lots of fun! That's one thing I always wanted
>to do but I missed out on not being a girl.
Well, now's your chance. :)
>>Slumber party? (Jumbo shrimp? Small crowd? Freezer burn? Inside out?) :)
>Very funny!
<VBFG>
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Golf Gambling etc.:
>thanks for the start on the prizes for golf.. go ahead and ship them if
>it is easier.. i have a few other things for prizes in the works but
>hope to have enough so everyone who plays gets some sort of a prize..
>(got a broken bra for the lowest score *LOL*). subject to feedback
>from members i will focus on a good price for the golf location. there
>are a couple of other courses we can consider for that.. a couple of
>courses (a little up in price but not bad) have inquired if we would
>like a lunchion after we play.
>we do have promotion packets for the boardwalk.. i will talk to the
>host dept re the books and a little note welcoming diva attendees i
>dont see that as a problem.. the packets are pretty standard.. 5 doller
>match play.. 2 for one cocktail ect.. i think the addition of an
>invitation to diva people is a great idea..
Ok, thanks. There are some other comments about gambling in this mailing.
I think we're gonna pencil in gambling on Tuesday evening after the pre-
DLV thing, and mention that it's a wildcard option at other times.
>why didnt i think of that..
Uh, you did, didn't you? :)
>re "the hidden women" i went over there last tues.. she is open but
>still receiving stock and would like to have an event or an offer for
>the diva group.. i will talk to her and get some more info.. she is
>very close to glamor botique so we could do both in a small timeframe..
Before I forget this, can you please get the exact address and the
phone number so I can add this to the online vendor list. Also could
you get their e-mail address, please, so we can add them to the DLV
mailing list? TIA. :)
We have Glamour Boutique on the slate for Thursday afternoon for their
open house. This has just been confirmed by John and Anthony. Since they
are planning to have some refreshments for the group, and some specials,
I did say to them that we would not two-track their time period, since
they will be going to some trouble for us.
I see either Wednesday afternoon or Friday afternoon as good for a
similar thing with Hidden Woman. Friday would give them more people to
potentially be exposed to, but Golf will probably overlap into the
afternoon, at least somewhat. Wednesday would give them fewer (as of
this day, hour, minute and second) conflicts, but fewer bodies.
I'm sure both Hidden Woman and Glamour Boutique will get a LOT of
walk-in traffic from our people, all through the DLV period. GB is
getting a very good reputation very rapidly.
I wanna also contact our Mary Kay people and set something up for those
who might want more of a "civilian" thing. <g> :)
>i will have the discounts for diva arranged soon and am considering
>some other places in belz to approach.. perhaps leah would like to go
>malling with me some day to chat up some of the managers.. anybody
>interested in a "jafra" party?
Hey, the more vendors who make it known they welcome our people, the
better, Belz or anywhere. Our people are good customers. :)
>also in the process of cleaning out my closet i found several outfits i
>have dieted out of.. one of the events we had for tge was a clothing
>exchange.. i just toss this out as an idea.. also would be willing to
>loan or sell very inexpensive any clothing i no longer use.. maybe some
>others would like to do the same.. but trading seems like so much more
>fun then selling.. might be a consderation as part of the pj party or
>one of the low key social nights.. if there is interest in this and
>people are short of baggage space they can ship here in advance.
This was brought up before. If you (or anybody) want to plan such a
thing, I see no objection. It's my opinion, however, that such a thing
may be a hassle. Thinking back to the last "garage sale" thing at a
local t* group meeting, lots of items did not move, even with reducing
the price to zero to avoid hauling the stuff back, locally in a car.
Compare this to shipping back or schlepping through an airport.
If you wanna plan such a thing, yes, it could be combined with the
pajama party, or else second-tracked some afternoon or after the feature
events of the evening.
>on the security issue.. i am sure that leah and some of the other local
>gals can make some trips to the casinos just to see what the attitude
>is.. also if the group wants me to i can get in contact with the diff
>casinos and talk to the security bosses and get an official response..
>like you said in the mailing they want our money more then they want to
>hassel us.
Yes. We are good customers. We're well-behaved (well ...) and we don't
wanna cause any trouble.
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Security again:
>>If I may speak very freely here, I think the issue of security is
>>being dwelled upon far in excess of its need. The facts are: Vehicle
>I agree. If you make any big deal of it, they will use it as an excuse
>to stay home and mope in the closet.
>Security has 2 issues, 1) physical security, like safety from a
>direct attack and 2) inspections, suspicions, confronting people.
>For 1, we can't do anyting about it. If they are going to attack
>where you are, your toast! But the likelyhood of it happening where
>you are going to be is so little, you are more likely to win the
>big jackpot. As for 2, if you don't want to get your car inspected,
>don't go where they inspect them. So simple it's stupid. If you don't
>want to pass a guard going to your room, don't stay where they have
>guards. Again, very simple.
The guards for the tower elevators will spook some people, but I've
never had any trouble (Stardust, Sahara, Luxor) and those staying at
the Sahara last year, which was a good percentage of our people, didn't
mention that as a negative point at all.
The guards are there for a purpose, to keep burglars, vandals, drunks,
and other non-guests out of the hotel towers, not to judge the dress
of the paying guests. I've found that after a day or so, they will
remember you (in either mode) and just wave you on thru. As is mentioned
before, those who tend to throw their weight around don't stay on the
payroll very long.
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Misc. stuff:
Denise writes:
>>If you have a personal web site, and want to see it listed in the
>>boilerplate of the regular DLV 2002 mailings, please reply to this and
>>give us your URL. Thanks.
>You can list mine if you want to. I think it would be a great idea to
>be able to "meet" some of the participants in advance through their web
>pages, and may even help me remember their names.. Its
> http://www.geekbabe.com/admaero
Hey, you got it right this year. :) :) :) :)
>>> they have 3 doller bj and let it ride games
>I'm not touching that one...not this time...
That's Blackjack, Densie, sometimes known as 21.
>>>You can even rent those Polaroid ID cameras.
>I used to do photo IDs. There really isn't any advantage in having one
>of those special cameras, except that they save on film because they
>can do four pics to a plate. The important things to have are the
>laminator and the picture cutter. However, I agree with Annie that a
>DLV ID card would probably not be a good idea, since no one in
>authority would know it from an official Al Queada badge, or a Mickey
>Mouse Club membership card.
>>Ok, comments? Maybe a day trip out there just to see what is there
>>might work?
>I'm always happy to take a trip up to the mountains, especially
>mountains I've never seen before, and if they do have skiiing, they
>probably rent equipment.
There are some other comments in this mailing, I'm not sure whether
they appear above or below this one.
>Looking over the schedule:
>Does anyone know where the karaoke is and what time for sure? I would
>like to see it listed on the schedule. I will definitely want to do
>it, and Tony may make an appearance as well.
I think it's Wednesday at Goodtimes. Tina will know for sure. I'm kinda
assuming people will wander over there after Keys. I'll add this to the
schedule. Tina, please let us know if I have the day or location wrong.
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Security:
>>... and not dwell
>>upon them when the main list gets going in January.
[snip]
>>... we need to keep a positive "spin" on this year's DLV ...
[snap]
>>We need to answer any security questions and concerns with accurate
>>no-bullsh*t answers that will not lead to endless-loop discussion and
>>debate.
>Good plan.
Thank you. :)
>>If I may speak very freely here, I think the issue of security is
>>being dwelled upon far in excess of its need. The facts are: Vehicle
[bobbitt]
>Vehicle inspections are legal on private property at any time (no, I'm
>not a lawyer, I just read a lot) when announcements regarding right of
>inspection are posted as part of your process of accepting their rules
>to park on their property (read the fine print on your parking lot
>parking ticket) and the inspection policy is applied equally to all
>(just try proving that it's not during time of national emergency).
>The real issue here is fear of going in public. I can certainly
>understand that concern. If you are in boy mode, you will perhaps be a
>little angry that your car is being examined, since you know you aren't
>a terrorist. If you are en femme at the time, your nervousness factor
>shoots into the stratosphere, sicne most of us don't like to call undue
>attention to ourselves when out in the general public. The key to
>getting it over with as quickly as possible is to cooperate in every
>way. Ditto for any other security measures (ID checks, key checks,
>room anme and number checks, etc.).
>Yes, it is quite possible that some of the security guards are taking
>advantage of the situation to throw their weight around.
My experience with LV hotel security people has been positive, in both
modes. It seems to be those who have the tendency to throw their weight
(or badge) around unless they need to, don't stay hired very long.
Hotels don't wanna p*ss off paying/playing customers who would simply
go to That Other Casino down the street if hassled.
>That same situation could have happened before 9/11. Your options are
>still the same:
> 1). shut up and take it
> 2). calmly state that you feel that you are being singled out due
>to your appearance (and be prepared to live with the inevitable denial
>and increased hassle that will undoubtedly occur)
> 3). complain to higher management (see #2 for the likely result)
> 4). If you have other people with you to act as witnesses, try
>suing. Of course, if you have others with you, the chances are your
>initial encounter with security will be relatively civil.
IMAO, the best thing to do if hassled is to take your business
elsewhere. For every one firm that doesn't want your business, there
are hundreds that do. Starve a rat today!
<big snip>
>>At Pinkfest in Chicago, although most of us stayed in motels out in
>>the burbs, we had people staying at the Hilton and the Palmer house
>>downtown, which I would consider in the same class as the Crowne and
>>the LA Marriott. Nobody reported any difficulties.
>No problems at the Hilton in downtown Chicago or in DC. One minor
>hassle on the street in Chicago, but that is par for the course for
>Chicago (a city where I have more on-street troubles than any others)
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Gambling:
<snip>
>>>and the casino is interested in our biz..<snip>
>>Well, we don't have any late-nite gaming on the schedule, at least yet.
[cut-paste]
>>I have a feeling that a lot of our people would *like* to do the tables
[whack]
>Last year, only a couple of girls showed up for late-night gambling
>at the Riviera. Personally, I'm glad I did it, but it did make me
>nervous.
>It is very public and does require a girl to be comfortable in a major
>public way (lots of light, speaking usually required, difficult to just
>walk away when you have money laying on the table). It is much more
>"out there" than restaurant dining.
>If someone organizes it this year, I'll summon up my courage and go
>again. Any night would work, by just adding it on after that night's
>last event. Tuesday night certainly sounds like a good night to do it.
>Although many girls always say that they really want to do it, and they
>probably do but just aren't ready for that amount of exposure. So, I
>wouldn't recommend making it an alternate track activity, since I
>really don't think that there would be a big turnout (even with
>"freebies") and I probably wouldn't skip the main activity just to
>gamble en femme
I have mixed feelings about taking a group of DLV people out gambling.
On one hand, I think it's priceless real-world exposure and can be a
major confidence booster to those who have not been out much. On the
other hand, a whole gaggle of t-girls at one table or bank of machines
does draw attention.
Gaming seems to be one of those things that is best done individually.
This past year, I almost always saw our people in the casino at the
Sahara after hours, but I would see one at the tables, another playing
VP at the bar, another over on the slots, etc. Yeah, it can be fun to
get a group together to do BJ, excuse me, 21 <bfg>, or craps, but is
there a demand for such a thing from our people?
Comments?
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Golf, Security, abbreviation:
Cat writes:
>Golf: I will also donate something to the outing, just not sure what
>yet. Think there is a chance of getting Glamour Boutique to donate
>something?
I'm sure they can be talked into it. :)
>I like upscale challenging courses, but I love the thought of playing a
>round with sisters and don't really care where it is..just want to have
>as many as possible and enjoy the fun.
>Boardwalk Casino: Does the $3 bj mean "blackjack"? (Just getting in
>practice for Blonde Day).
Uh, I think that's the only "BJ" you can get there, at least the only
you can get for $3. :) :)
>I have enjoyed going there on previous trips to LV, albeit in boy
>mode. The Elvis show there was alot of fun when I went.
>Security:
>I know there has been alot of concern over our security. I have
>travelled at least every other weekend since 9/11. I have been to
>upscale hotels, mall, restaurants and various other businesses and also
>to some "not so upscale". The only thing I have changed is to be a bit
>more androgynous for travel on planes. It has been my experience that
>people are actually more accepting and tolerant of the TG people I am
>around than before. We have to expect some higher level of security,
>but I believe if we conduct ourselves properly, we have nothing to
>worry about. Let's be aware, give everyone direct and truthful
>answers, but not go overboard and scare people unnecessarily.
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Summary Schedule of Activities:
Date Day Time Activity
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Apr 30 Tue Morning
Afternoon Milano's Welcome Dinner
Evening Pre-DLV get-together
May 01 Wed All day Blond Hair Day
Morning
Afternoon
Evening Keys Buffet Dinner and Welcome celebration
After Karaoke, Goodtimes
Later Slumber Party
May 02 Thu Morning
Afternoon Glamour Boutique Open House
Evening Female Impersonator Show
Limo tour
May 03 Fri Morning Golf
Afternoon Carluccio's Dinner (5:00pm)
Evening Goodtimes Annual Mixer
Late Night Dance Night
May 04 Sat Morning
Afternoon Mall Crawl
Evening Las Vegas "Legacy" show
Midnight Rocky Horror Picture Show
May 05 Sun Morning
Afternoon Side trip
Evening Buffet dinner, Palace Station
Farewell Get-together
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Tentative DLV 2001 schedule:
as of Sun Dec 2 17:17:27 CST 2001
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Tuesday, April 30:
Activity Name : Welcome dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 5:00pm
Location or Venue : Milano's
Expected Dress : Casual (moderately dressy ok)
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $15 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 30
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Casual Italian, American, Greek, Mexican
...
Activity Name : Pre-DLV get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Tu, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : T-friendly lounge TBA
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : One one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
...
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Wednesday, May 1:
Activity Name : Buffet dinner and Welcome Celebration
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, Ev
Location or Venue : Keys
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : $5 - $12 per person plus drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 60
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments : Light entertainment to follow.
...
Activity Name : Karaoke
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, later
Location or Venue : Goodtimes
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : Foon and munchies on one's own.
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 70
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : After Keys
...
Activity Name : Slumber Party
Possible "Timezone Options" : We, Late
Location or Venue : Residence Inn
Expected Dress : Whatever
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 30
Organiser Required and who : Yes, LeeAnna
Comments :
...
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Thursday, May 2:
Activity Name : Glamour Boutique Open House
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, Aft
Location or Venue : Glamour Boutique, 714 E Sahara
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for purchases
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
...
Activity Name : FI Show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, Ev
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Nice casual to very dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : Ca 100
Organiser Required and who : Probably
Comments : Frank Marino or Kenny Kerr
...
Activity Name : Limo Tour
Possible "Timezone Options" : Th, after show
Location or Venue : Las Vegas Strip
Expected Dress : Nice :)
Expected Cost (If any) : $15 pp
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 7, 14, 21 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Aiko
Comments : Delmar, etc.
...
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Friday, May 3:
Activity Name : Golf
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 10:00am
Location or Venue : Golf course {duh}
Expected Dress : Casual or athletic, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) : 4 8 12 16 20 24 ...
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Mindy
Comments : Details TBA
...
Activity Name : Dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 5:00pm
Location or Venue : Carluccio's
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for dinner and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 50
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Leah
Comments :
...
Activity Name : Annual Mixer
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 7:30pm
Location or Venue : Goodtimes
Expected Dress : Casual to modrerately dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for drinks and munchies
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Possible need to change venue
...
Activity Name : Dance Night
Possible "Timezone Options" : Fr, 11:30pm
Location or Venue : Gipsy, et. al.
Expected Dress : Whatever
Expected Cost (If any) : Cover and drinks
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 100
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
...
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Saturday, May 4:
Activity Name : Mall Crawl
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, 12:00n
Location or Venue : Various
Expected Dress : Casual, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : On one's own for what is purchased
Maximum Numbers (If any) : None
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Annie
Comments : Belz, Boulevard, possibly Primm
...
Activity Name : Las Vegas show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, Ev
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Nice casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : TBD
Maximum Numbers (If any) :
Organiser Required and who : Yes
Comments : Legacy LV show or newer artsy show
...
Activity Name : Rocky Horror Picture Show
Possible "Timezone Options" : Sa, 12:00m
Location or Venue : Paradise 6 Cinema
Expected Dress : Anything goes (really)
Expected Cost (If any) : $4.50 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 150
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : HAS to be better than last year.
...
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Sunday, May 5:
Activity Name : Side trip
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su, PM
Location or Venue : TBD
Expected Dress : Casual, boymode or girlmode
Expected Cost (If any) : Possible donation for park fee
Maximum Numbers (If any) : Capacity of vehicles
Organiser Required and who : Yes, Annie
Comments : Red Rock, Valley of Fire, etc.
...
Activity Name : Buffet Dinner
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su, 5:30pm
Location or Venue : Palace Station
Expected Dress : Casual recommended
Expected Cost (If any) : $7.95 per person
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca. 50
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments : Meet at top of escalator, 5:30pm
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Activity Name : Farewell Get-together
Possible "Timezone Options" : Su Ev
Location or Venue : TBA
Expected Dress : Casual to dressy
Expected Cost (If any) : On ones own for drinks and whatever
Maximum Numbers (If any) : ca 120
Organiser Required and who : No
Comments :
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