From: Michelle Jenkins (dlvdisc@geekbabe.com)
Date: Sun Sep 14 2003 - 18:51:42 CDT
Hi,
While I am still not entirely sure that Densie really intends (intended)
to follow through with the Nuns in Casino adventure, it has been
interesting (very interesting to say the least) to see the commentary on
the proposal and from who the comments are coming from.
I find it fascinating in so much that as a Cder part of the whole deal
of passing is to be as innocuous and transparent as possible. That is,
blend in like a chameleon and not be noticed. Much of the now famous
policy document talks of this as the concept for the guidelines.
OTOH so many of the TG community really like to be out and show
themselves off, and rather than blend in ensure that they attract
attention in one way or another. I guess in part it comes down to
individual personalities and mine is definitely not that outward,
especially when in drag.
The nun thing, the hearse ride and even the Flash and Trash party all
seem to me to be pushing the limit. While I'm prepared to accept that
any or all of these can or may occur, I can't really see myself taking a
major part in any of them.
But it does raise the question as to where the line is drawn about
acceptability.
If wearing a nuns outfit into casino and gambling, drinking and smoking
offends some, or might offend many, as the case may be, then why isn't
just wearing the nuns costume equally offensive whether to a mainstream
location or to a private party.
I can see that all of the above could and probably would/will be real
hoots for those that participate. They are all things I could imagine
doing in my younger years, dressed as a boy, girl or maybe even naked in
the coffin! :-) but are any of them really activities that we should
have at an event that is clearly getting quite popular and populous (ie
lots of people). The probability of them getting out of hand is high and
the consequences are potentially fairly significant.
Having said that:
- What is the difference between some of the above and girls dressing up
in their finery and going to the 4 Seasons for High Tea? To the casual
Joseph or Josephine Public us Tger's all look like a bunch of "kooks"
and we don't deserve any respect no matter what we dress like.
- What's the difference between limousines of Tger's arriving at the
valet stand of a hotel or at the Four Queens and taking photo shots with
passing by-standers, including hoisting (willing) valet attendants on to
their knees etc,
I tend to think that any outrageous activities likely to bring attention
to individuals or the group should be frowned upon. I'm still unsure
exactly where the line is / should be between acceptable and outrageous
but I can assure you, that like many others, I will know the difference
when I see it!
So you're clear on my position? Smoking, drinking, gambling nuns in a
casino is going to far but the nuns behaving appropriately? Well I'll
know when I see them there and I can give a definitive answer then!!!
:-)
Hugs
Michelle
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