Re: DLV 2004 Ends on Mothers Day

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From: Densie (dlvdisc@geekbabe.com)
Date: Wed Sep 17 2003 - 18:02:31 CDT


> I remember two years ago saying something to Annie and some others that
> the organizers were close to the point of having to decide if they
> wanted to keep DLV the same thing it was, or let it grow.

OK, I guess it's my turn to start whining.

I remember that well. I told Tony that I was considering not going to
DLV anymore because it had grown so large and was no longer the
gathering of a group of friends that it used to be. As usual regarding
this event, Tony surprised me. He wants to go no matter what; however,
it is a vacation, not a convention, to us in the purest sense. We do
only the activities that we're interested in, and that our friends will
be attending.

It seems to me that those of us who remember DLV the way it used to be
would be better off if the dress codes, the rules of conduct, the
meeting rooms, rubber chicken banquets, etc. would move off into another
group.

There are people, evidently lots of people, who need large groups and a
structured setting to be comfortable, but that, to me, is not a
vacation. That's what I try to get away from when I take time off from
work.

I guess I'm lamenting here, because I miss the good times, no pun
intended. The dam tour, the little get-together at Keys and the other
places we would gather to get soused, Cassie's restroom incident, late
night gambling, 3am breakfasts with Mike...all of these things that we
did as a small group where we all knew each others' names.

Fortunately we are still able to do some of those things, and there are
still a few of us who know each other and get together, which makes it
all worthwhile to me. However, our crowd has outgrown most of the places
we used to go, so to let this group grow, we have to move into bigger
places, and adopt more rules, and it becomes a convention rather than a
vacation.

I know we hash this out every year, and it never does any good...our
numbers keep growing and the event gets more structured. I don't know
quite what to do about it, but suffice it to say that I don't care who
is offended by nuns, Rocky Horror, off-the-wall photo shoots, fetish
parties, etc. because those are the people who are going to try to spoil
the event and turn it into a convention anyway.

-densie


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