From: annie (dlvdisc@geekbabe.com)
Date: Tue May 13 2003 - 15:53:57 CDT
I'm going to comment on a couple items in this thread, so please excuse
any discontinuities here ...
>but we always seem to be talking about pulling back in the dress
>department because we're worried about offending newbies (or somebody,
>not sure who).
I'm not hearing any calling to "pull back in the dress department" or
anything like that. The vast majority of our people have a very good
handle on what is to be worn to what, and what behavior is appropriate
where.
>I don't think it's broke, so I don't think it needs fixing. :-)
In almost all cases, this is quite true.
I don't think anybody is complaining about the general dress or behavior
of our people. My personal observation is that 98% of our people dressed
and behaved appropriately 100% of the time.
Our people tend to be very classy, in dress, in attitude, and in general
as people all around.
What I and a couple of the other volunteers heard, and I observed some
of this personally, could be summed up as follows:
1. Grossly inappropriate dress in mainstream venues.
Examples of this were so few and far between that many people would say
it didn't happen this year. However, when it did happen, it did attract
quite a bit of the wrong kind of attention. Some of this could be just
cases of bad judgement on what is appropriate, but some of it appears to
be very blatant and oh-so-obvious disregard of our dress guidelines.
2. Obvious and in-your-face behavior which flaunted transgenderism.
Again, these were isolated incidents, but these did reflect on the whole
group, and in some cases penalized the whole group, such as the cases
which elicited most of (but not all of) the restroom incidents. And
again, these were isolated, so I'm sure many of our people don't know
these happened.
>We, the girls of DLV, promote a very possitive image as a whole. I
>have no problem being seen with our fellow sisters.
I agree 100% with this. We have a very positive image and a very good
reputation, both within the t* community and in general.
>BTW... is "fellow sisters" an oxymoron? :):)
Well, many of us use the term "guys" to refer to groups of either gender.
... jumbo shrimp, small crowd, freezer burn, inside out, country music ...
:)
>We are not only a group of the well dressed, we also promote various
>levels of acceptance amongst others and ourselves. Is there a better
>litmus test about our existance than our inner feelings?
Very true!
>Meanwhile, separate subject, I hear that you (Annie) personally caught
>a lot of flak from people this year and that it kind of got you down.
Well, I wouldn't call it a LOT of flak, but there were a couple cases
where people obviously were not happy and let it be known. :(
I think I and the others did all we could to help get people registered
and up to speed on everything. In the one case, I think I went out of
my way to personally contact them and to be sure things were cool, which
they did not appear to be. :(
>Carborundum whatever!! I appreciate all the tremendous things you've
>done over the years for DLV and how much concern you showed for me last
>month. You're wonderful, so just relax. [:-)]
Thanks. {blush} :)
I know that most everybody had a great time, and I'm sure the survey
numbers will reflect this, but I still get concerned whenever things
don't go right, and I would like to see EVERYBODY enjoy it.
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