From: annie (pinkfest@pinkmyst.com)
Date: Wed Sep 30 2009 - 13:53:45 CDT
>Fact: Such businesses are required to "card" customers.
Is this really a fact? In Illinois is there a legal requirement
that each and every person buying alcohol is actually carded,
or is some discretion allowed?
Reason I'm asking is that I am very seldom carded in Illinois.
No, I could not pass for under 21 if my life depended on it!
Most bartenders and doorkeepers recognize that there is no
way I am under age and very seldom card me.
I don't think I was carded once at the last Pinkfest, which
included buying alcohol at Chicago Chop House, Redhead, Gino's,
Winberies, Velvet Rope, and other places. I don't recall of
any Pinkfesters being carded at all, anywhere, last year.
I do know that some places do "Card Hard", but it appears to
me that most in Illinois do not.
>Apparent fact: Hunters seems to have selected our community for the ID
>checks, and will not accept an ID that does not have a picture of us "as
>we appear at the door". On the other hand, "we" are about the only ones
>who often appear as a different person than our ID picture shows.
The TSA has stated that if the photo on the card is a recognizable
likeness of the individual, then that individual is ok (pending
other criteria, of course) to board a commercial flight. I would
think that standards set by the Illinois powers that be would be
along these same lines.
>Is Hunters "discriminating"? A case could be made for that, but it would
>be a weak one, but it certainly feels like discrimination. They are
>basically just within Illinois State law.......they're not fools.
One item that still seems to be unanswered is "Does Hunters want
our business?" Are they really trying to cover their @$$ or would
they rather that TGs go elsewhere?
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