From: Diva Las Vegas organizers (dlvorg@geekbabe.com)
Date: Wed Sep 02 2009 - 06:42:24 CDT
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Org List
Time to vote
Touchstone location
Hotels
Hotel gatherings
Administrivia
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Time to vote:
Those of voting status can expect a special ballot mailing
for the primary hotel question to arrive shortly. If you
don't receive this, please let us know.
As a clarification, this is a vote on the designation of
a to-be-named-in-the-future hotel as a "more/most suggested"
or "primary" hotel, yes or no, and does not consider any
specific properties.
We'll now consider Holly's motion for the hotel hostesses
and hotel gatherings to be raised and seconded. Please
continue discussion on this.
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As a reminder, the one-month call for comments on the dates
will expire next Tuesday, September 8. By default, the
tentative dates (April 18 - 23) will become final unless
significant objections are heard.
On next Tuesday we'll summarize the comments from the Teeming
Millions regarding the dates and open the floor BRIEFLY at
that time in the event someone wishes to show cause why the
dates should not become final.
Please consider this to be a heads-up to watch your inbox
closely during and immediately after September 8.
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Touchstone location:
JoAnn writes:
>To One & All---
>As I read the dialog there seems to be a theme [although
>somewhat mixed and/or weak] for a primary hotel which
>would be a place for everyone to touch base for rides,
>meeting others, getting updates, etc.
>At the same time, others see a hotel as being a place
>that can bring undue attention when there is a large
>group of us. Also that there are more negatives than
>positives to such an arrangement.
>I'm not sure the two will ever be in alignment or will
>we have enough of the attendees really wanting alignment.
>But I observe that attendees appear to want a "touchstone"
>place for "checking-in", and doing all of the other things
>in regard to being current on activities, meeting people,
>etc.
>Therefore, I suggest rather than a hotel being the place
>to meet, we have a different shoppe/ vendor [i.e., Glamor
>Boutique, or others] to be host for the day as that day's
>"touchstone" location replacing a primary hotel. We could
>have a volunteer to check in at that day's location at
>three designated times as a "resource person"
>In summary, let everyone pick the hotel they wish. At the
>same time, designate a daily vendor/site who is supportive
>to our group as the day's location for meeting.
Thanks, JoAnn.
Comments on this idea, gang?
With the additions of the vendor functions proposed by Kat
and Ginger, we would indeed have five vendor-sponsored
activities, and assuming that these vendors can all agree
to host on different days, these could be rolled into
this plan. That would have all weekdays covered. Since we
will be beginning on a Sunday this coming year, we would
need to arrange for something that day.
Is this something we want to consider?
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Hotels:
Edy writes:
>The hotel issue has raised a lot of pro's and con's...so
>here is one more.
>Up front..I do not use hotels as a live in Vegas part
>year. But sometimes I find myself not attending an evening
>DLV event, or find myself not wanting to close out the
>evening after a DLV event. Having hotels somewhat
>consolidated to a few may entice some DLV attendees
>to stop by a hotel lounge for a CHANCE meeting with
>some other DLVers for a drink, conversation, etc.
>Everything does not have to be organized during DLV.
Thanks, Edy.
Chance meetings and informal hotel get-togethers have been
part of the DLV experience since the early days. Those I
have been most aware of have occurred at the Sahara and the
IP casino bars. Not everyone participates in these, but I
do know cases where others have noticed the groups at the
bars and have joined them.
I've interpreted Holly's proposal to be an extension of
this concept. Set times and locations for things like this.
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Hotel gatherings:
Kumiko writes:
>We should be careful on what we are asking.
>I could be wrong but those that attends dlv, don't arrive
>on the first day and leave on the last day. Some arrive
>early, mid week, or at the end of the week and different
>times of the day.
>So this may require the volunteer hostess or hostess(es)
>to be available the whole week of dlv, waiting on a few
>people to arrive depending on when these certain people
>arrive at the selected primary hotel(s)
We do have attendees come and go every day. However ...
For DLV 2009, out of the 125 "show-up" registrations (most
with primary attendee only, some with SO), 93 of these
(vast majority) showed Monday or earlier. All other days
show single-digit arrival numbers except Wednesday, which
was our most popular non-start arrival day.
>So we are asking volunteers who are somewhat experienced
>with the dlv schedule, to sacrifice their vacation time,
>from hours to possibly every day or whole days, possibly
>and probably missing dlv activities, to be a hostess in
>a room or coffee shop to help, welcome, and accommodate
>new people as they arrive to DLV?
>IE. A newbie is to arrive 5pm tuesday. NSD is scheduled
>for 5pm tuesday the same time. The hostess who may want
>to go to NSD now has to sacrifice going because they
>volunteered to be a hostess and to welcome the newbie by
>waiting in a room or coffee shop.
>IE. Tuesday morning is the Golf day, and two newbies are
>scheduled to arrive at the hotel. A hostess who wants
>to go golf cannot go golf and has to stay back because
>they volunteered to be a hostess and welcome the new
>people.
>Complications could and does occur and the newbie may or
>may not be able to meet with the hostess. So if a no show
>is the result, the hostess has wasted her time, and missed
>out on a event.
>That is alot to ask and sacrifice.
I really don't think Holly or anyone intends to impose
upon any volunteer to the degree that they cannot freely
attend the DLV activities of their choice.
In re-reading Holly's motion, the idea is for one daily
get-together at a time determined by the hostess, no
mention of any required hours, watchstanding, walk-in
availability, or check-in duty.
I also don't think Holly intends to have any of these
informal gatherings in any way compete for participants
with any of the main-line DLV activities.
>I remember this being asked in disc or org some time ago
>when it was asked who would be willing to do this? I'm not
>sure if I read any answers or many people stepping up to
>the plate to volunteer?
>Its hard enough to have a responsibility at a event where
>one misses the whole event by sitting at the door or desk
>registering or doing a service for the attendees like
>registration. That person cannot socialize, and basically
>misses the event, though being physically present, with no
>appreciation shown by anyone. It can be hard on that
>person! I would be harder if the person is waiting alone
>in their hotel room or elsewhere waiting on someone to
>show up, if they show up.
>I know not all newbies take advantage of the Big Sister
>program, and maybe they should be oops... the 'M' word ...
>as in mandatory so that the Big Sister can deal with
>making them welcome and more comfortable than having a
>hostess... or am I wrong in understanding what the Big
>Sister program is supposed to do.
>Also are we duplicating the same services of Big Sister
>and Hostess here?
I've always viewed the Big Sister program to be a personal
one-on-one peer support arrangement. Holly's program would
offer opportunities for peer support, but on a many-to-one
or many-to-many incidental basis. We have countless cases
of episodic support functions at DLV, not related to the
Big Sister program.
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